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Input welcome from all. Of course those of the Mormon faith are welcome to voice their position on this thread, but I'm also particularly interested in the opinion of the Lutheran, Catholic, and Charismatic members of FR.

And I'm "just axin'", because "I just want to know."

Can someone give me a Lutheran Ping?

1 posted on 02/10/2012 12:15:01 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: OKSooner

It is NOT Christian


2 posted on 02/10/2012 12:16:58 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: OKSooner

Evangelical Christians consider it a cult.


3 posted on 02/10/2012 12:17:34 PM PST by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Marc Levin)
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To: OKSooner

Of course it’s a fair question, hardly anyone discusses it here on FR.


4 posted on 02/10/2012 12:18:35 PM PST by stuartcr ("In this election year of 12, how deep into their closets will we delve?")
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To: OKSooner

Well, IBTZ!

Also, no, I do not think this is a valid question.....

because it’s so obvious that Mormonism isn’t Christianity there can be no doubt about it.

Here’s why. In mormonism:

1. God is not the Alpha and Omega, just one of many gods
2. Jesus is not the one and only son of God.
3. Jesus’s death on the cross was not enough for your salvation.
4. When you die you become a god.

I could go on but why bother?


5 posted on 02/10/2012 12:19:37 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: OKSooner

Lesseeee....

They believe Lucifer and Jesus were brothers.

They believe that God the Father and Mary are married.

They believe, “As we are now, God once was, as God is now, we shall someday be.”

Uhhh . . . NO they are not Christian.

Have a look at “The Godmakers”.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Mr0TqrEf8


6 posted on 02/10/2012 12:20:01 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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Not for a minute is Mormonism anything more than a cult that’s taking millions of well-meaning, misinformed souls to Hell.

There is only one God, and that’s not the one of millions of gods that Joseph Smith conjured up. They can call themselves anything they want, but calling themselves Christians is totally wrong.

To think that they believe that Joe Smith, Jr., is going to sit next to Jesus on Judgement Day is ridiculous . . . about as ridiculous as the planet Kolob which Joseph Smith dreamed up. It’s very sad to see millions of people marching to Hell because of this guy.


7 posted on 02/10/2012 12:20:24 PM PST by laweeks
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To: OKSooner

It’s a religion. They behave themselves, pay taxes, and obey the law. That’s good enough for most.


8 posted on 02/10/2012 12:20:29 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: OKSooner

Jesus plan for salvation was completed when He died on the cross and rose from the dead three days later.His work was finished.

He didn’t need any other prophets to change or alter His plan.
Starting at Galatians 1:6

“I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse! “

That’s a very strong warning!


9 posted on 02/10/2012 12:20:33 PM PST by texson66 ("Mr Obama, tear down this wall of bureaucratic opression of freedom!")
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To: OKSooner

No its not

and its a fair question...


11 posted on 02/10/2012 12:21:18 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: OKSooner
All Christian denominations have a Trinitarian form of Baptism.

I do not believe they use the New Testament but their own version of teachings from their founder.

Mormons believe Marriage is eternal and they have a temple.

Jesus said in the Gospel that the wife will not necessarily share heaven with her husband (the question of the womand who married each of 7 brothers...)

12 posted on 02/10/2012 12:23:09 PM PST by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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Since you used a computer to get here (I guess) then you can use the same computer to research the question yourself. Try it, it’s fun.


15 posted on 02/10/2012 12:24:34 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Regret Anything Because At One Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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No, it is not part of orthodox Christianity. Even though Catholics, Lutherans, and Orthodox disagree on many matters, we absolutely DO NOT believe that Satan or Lucifer and Jesus were EVER brothers. Nor do we believe that men and women are united in marriage in Heaven. They also teach that there are some things that Jesus cannot atone for...thus mitigating the total atonement of Christ’s death on the cross.

Mormons are wonderful, family-oriented people. They tend to live very clean lives (no alcohol, cigarettes, etc.), but Muslims are similar in that regard.

Joseph Smith, the man who started the Mormon Church went out and had an “angelic” experience similar to that of Muhammed some several hundred years before.

Be not deceived that the Devil will come as “an angel of light.” And don’t forget that God has told us we are not to add to HIS book nor take away from it. Thus, what’s the whole Book of Mormon for?

P.S. I consider myself an Evangelical Christian. I attend a Missouri Synod Lutheran Church.


18 posted on 02/10/2012 12:25:06 PM PST by Paved Paradise
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Nope, it’s a fraud. Scholars and scientists have proven that the LDS faith is built on deception and fraud. The sacred scrolls are not for Abraham, but Egyptian burial rites and DNA has proven that the native decentants are not middle eastern makeup.

Furthermore, blacks were not allowed into the church until the 70’s.


19 posted on 02/10/2012 12:25:08 PM PST by DownInFlames
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In 375AD, as the Church was encountering many heresies and false teachings, an ecumenical council was called in Nicaea. Of the 300 or so Bishops of the early Church who came, only three refused to sign what became known as the Nicene Creed.

I believe that whoever can affirm the statements of the Creed is a Christian as far as we can discern here on Earth. So, if anyone can believe the below, and not believe anything contrary, I believe, that the Church (as it existed in the 4th century) would have considered them a Christian.

We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, begotten of the Father the only-begotten; that is, of the essence of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father;

By whom all things were made both in heaven and on earth;

Who for us men, and for our salvation, came down and was incarnate and was made man;

He suffered, and the third day he rose again, ascended into heaven;

From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.

And in the Holy Ghost.

But those who say: 'There was a time when he was not;' and 'He was not before he was made;' and 'He was made out of nothing,' or 'He is of another substance' or 'essence,' or 'The Son of God is created,' or 'changeable,' or 'alterable'—they are condemned by the holy catholic and apostolic Church.

20 posted on 02/10/2012 12:26:17 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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Won’t go into the numerous criteria of what is a cult but Mormanism fits the definition on several levels. Catholicism fits the criteria as well. Pray to the Pope? Not I. Nor will I pray to “Mother Mary”.


21 posted on 02/10/2012 12:26:17 PM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: OKSooner

Read the first two chapters of a book by Tricia Erickson title CAN MITT ROMNEY SERVE TWO MASTER? on Amazon. It will answer your question.

It will answer your question....You can download it to Kindle or buy a paperback copy.


28 posted on 02/10/2012 12:35:38 PM PST by hoosiermama (Stand with God and Sarah, the Gipper and Newt will be standing next to you.)
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Interesting and very misunderstood subject.

Disclosure: I am not a Mormon. I identify myself as a Christian. I am not presently a member of any church or organized religion.

A Christian is a person who self-identifies as a Christian.

A church or religion can also identify itself as Christian. There are hundreds of organizations that self-identify as Christian. Are they all wrong, or all right? There is no authority beyond one’s conscience to make such a determination.

The proclamations of churches on this subject are meaningless and have no authority over any person other than those choosing to accept a certain church’s authority.

I accept no church’s declaration on this subject. I accept no individual’s declaration on this subject. My Christian identity is mine. Statements on the matter by others are irrelevant.

An individual or organization’s identification is only meaningful to the individual or organization making the identification.

No individual or organization has any standing to approve or deny an identification by another.

Now get ready to hear a lot of specious claims, bible quotes and meaningless chatter from those who profess authority in an area where they have none.

Mormons have no say in whether other churches are Christian, and other churches have no say in whether Mormons are Christian.

Authoritarian claims to the contrary are an invitation to meaningless sectarian wars, and we have seen plenty of those for centuries.

May many blessings be yours on your spiritual journey.


30 posted on 02/10/2012 12:36:57 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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Heres another fair question..

Is there some reason this question was not put where it belongs...

over in the Religion Forum ???

It would seem more genuine if you had put it there...

If necessary you could have easily found an article on the subject to post..

are you serious about your request when the threads are full of the same info that the Inmen have given you ???


31 posted on 02/10/2012 12:37:22 PM PST by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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Mormonism certainly considers itself Christian because it believes in a Jesus Christ. The “Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.” The Mormon prophet and founder Joseph Smith proclaimed all other churches and the Christian Bible to be false and apostate. Joseph Smith produced completely new teachings of a “plurality of gods” and that human beings could themselves become gods. Smith also taught, among other things, that the American Indians are descended from the lost tribes of Israel.

Biblical Christians (Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants), on the other hand, of course, completely reject the claims of Mormonism that the Christian Bible and Christian teachings such as the Holy Trinity are false.

Which is correct and which is apostate? It depends which side of the fence you are on. But the two are not compatible.


32 posted on 02/10/2012 12:38:01 PM PST by iowamark (The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, But in ourselves)
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DIFFERENCES BETWEEN CHRISTIANITY AND MORMONISM

QUESTION: Is There More Than One True God?
CHRISTIANITY: NO
MORMONISM: YES

QUESTION: Was God Once a Man Like Us?
CHRISTIANITY: NO
MORMONISM: YES

QUESTION: Are Jesus and Satan Spirit Brothers?
CHRISTIANITY: NO
MORMONISM: YES

QUESTION: Is God a Trinity?
CHRISTIANITY: YES
MORMONISM: NO

QUESTION: Was The Sin Of Adam and Eve a Great Evil Or a Great Blessing?
CHRISTIANITY: GREAT EVIL
MORMONISM: BLESSING

QUESTION: Can We Make Ourselves Worthy Before God?
CHRISTIANITY: NO
MORMONISM: YES

QUESTION: Is Salvation through Christ alone?
CHRISTIANITY: YES
MORMONISM: NO

QUESTION: Does Christ's Atoning Death Benefit Those Who Reject Him?
CHRISTIANITY: NO
MORMONISM: YES

QUESTION: Is The Bible The Unique and Final Word of God?
CHRISTIANITY: YES
MORMONISM: NO

QUESTION: Did The Early Church Fall Into Total Apostasy?
CHRISTIANITY: NO
MORMONISM: YES

There's more, but this should give you something to think about!

33 posted on 02/10/2012 12:39:36 PM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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