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Left for Hillsdale College as conservative, returned Paulie. (vanity)

Posted on 12/24/2011 12:55:37 PM PST by carjic

Sorry for the vanity. My son has returned from Left for Hillsdale College 1 1/2 years ago as a conservative and returned as a rabid Paul Supporter. (vanity)I am despondent after debating with him. He is lost.


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I sent my son to Hillsdale College knowing it was the most conservative college in the country. He has been a staunch conservative all his life and very inteligent and mature. He is a history and politics major. He has come home for Christmas after 3 semesters as a Paulie. I have had discussions, debates, arguments, but to no avail. He is a solid Paulie. He is 19 now and is a vote. What have I done? Any advice? It's not just Paul's fiscal policies (which I could overlook) its the whole enchilada.
1 posted on 12/24/2011 12:55:44 PM PST by carjic
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It's OK to be lost when you're 20.

It's not OK when your 40.

2 posted on 12/24/2011 12:58:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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You didn’t do anything. He did. Do not beat yourself up over it. I basically believe that RP will have an “i” as his middle initial. He hasn’t a chance. He is however a great comedic relief during the debates.


3 posted on 12/24/2011 12:58:33 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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He has a good foundation and will come around. Paul is extremely popular with young people and it’s easy to understand when you look at his generation.

His views will continue to evolve as he grows older and more experienced. I know mine did.


4 posted on 12/24/2011 12:59:01 PM PST by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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Sorry, I should have proof read first.


5 posted on 12/24/2011 12:59:39 PM PST by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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Could you be more specific, please - “the whole enchilada”?


6 posted on 12/24/2011 12:59:39 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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Ron Paul’s biggest gap in reality [in my view] is his statement that George Bush was giddy over the attacks of 9/11 so he could attack Iraq.


7 posted on 12/24/2011 12:59:51 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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He’s 19—got a lot of growing up left to do. Don’t worry about it—between your teaching and Hillsdale, he’ll come back to reality soon. He’s wasting his vote (I hope), but he will see the error of his ways one day soon.

If I were you, I’d drop the subject and just enjoy having him home for the holidays. (He may just be pulling your chain, BTW.)


8 posted on 12/24/2011 1:00:17 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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All is not lost. I voted for Mondale/Ferraro


9 posted on 12/24/2011 1:00:32 PM PST by omega4179 (We can't wait!............. for the end of an error.....1-20-13)
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At least he didn’t come home and accidentally share his MJ stash with the dogs (a case I witnessed yesterday at the dog ER).


10 posted on 12/24/2011 1:00:34 PM PST by Paladin2
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Not a Ron Paul fan myself but I do see Paul as a reaction to a serious problem we have with our government in this country.

Rather than argue about Ron Paul I would seek points of agreement on what the problems are and take it from there.


11 posted on 12/24/2011 1:01:56 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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HE is a RP supporter for all of his opinions. If it was just fiscal policy even I agree with most of Pauls opinions fiscally. Because they are CONSERVATIVE principles. However that’s about as far as I can go.


12 posted on 12/24/2011 1:02:20 PM PST by carjic (I've always been taught to respect my elders.... but it's getting harder to find any!)
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Once he gets a job, pays taxes, and his a place of his own it wouldn’t be surprising if his political views changed again.

College fosters a rather permissive attitude that doesn’t exist in the real world.


13 posted on 12/24/2011 1:02:38 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s never okay to be lost.


14 posted on 12/24/2011 1:04:54 PM PST by vladimir998
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It’s never okay to be lost.

Evidently you were born perfect.

Congratulations.

15 posted on 12/24/2011 1:08:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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Don’t worry about it. Embrace him for having views and beliefs. Let him know that it’s ok to disagree, and actually, it can be fun. Make sure he understands that it will never come between the two of you. Disagreeing is what challenges us to rethink our own positions and become able to expand and grow. Life, and the world, would be, oh, so boring if we all agreed.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink? Sure. But when he sees you drinking all the time, soon he will realized that he’s parched and needs a drink, too.

He’ll come around. And if he doesn’t, just be happy that he’s not Kucinich Koo-Koo, or an 0bama worshiper.


16 posted on 12/24/2011 1:09:36 PM PST by papasmurf (I pledge to vote (R). How 'bout you?)
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THere are worse things than being a RP fanatic.

An Obamatron, for example.

I have a (20-something) nephew who is a flaming liberal.
Brainwashed in college. He thinks Obama hung the moon, yet cannot articulate a damn thing Obama has accomplished for the improvement of this country.
Would LOVE it if he announced he supported Paul.


17 posted on 12/24/2011 1:09:56 PM PST by a real Sheila (Taylor/Fife 2012)
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THere are worse things than being a RP fanatic.

An Obamatron, for example.

I have a (20-something) nephew who is a flaming liberal.
Brainwashed in college. He thinks Obama hung the moon, yet cannot articulate a damn thing Obama has accomplished for the improvement of this country.
Would LOVE it if he announced he supported Paul.


18 posted on 12/24/2011 1:10:01 PM PST by a real Sheila (Taylor/Fife 2012)
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To: carjic

THere are worse things than being a RP fanatic.

An Obamatron, for example.

I have a (20-something) nephew who is a flaming liberal.
Brainwashed in college. He thinks Obama hung the moon, yet cannot articulate a damn thing Obama has accomplished for the improvement of this country.
Would LOVE it if he announced he supported Paul.


19 posted on 12/24/2011 1:10:06 PM PST by a real Sheila (Taylor/Fife 2012)
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I wouldn’t sweat it. He’s a kid. Heck, I voted for Perot in my first election.


20 posted on 12/24/2011 1:12:17 PM PST by Brasky
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