I've asked you several times to just quit talking to me, but it's apparent that you've got a crush on me.....or something...
I think you have
Posted on 07/30/2011 1:44:23 PM PDT by Liberty1970
Brian Josephson, the Nobel Prize-winning physicist, asked a question on Andrea Rossi’s blog about the quality of the 1MW demonstration in October. He has been a defender of true research in the LENR field, frequently challenging debunkers to back up their objections with logic instead of repeating the same one-sided attacks so often a signature of pseudosceptics. In answer, Rossi invited him to the test. I am assuming that the question did come from Josephson but there is no doubt that the invite is real:
Brian Josephson July 30th, 2011 at 4:17 AM
October demo Andrea,
You’ve said the 1MW E-cat due in October will be the real test, but in what way will it be more convincing than the ones done so far? Will it be done in such a way that people are sure about the amount of water/steam coming out of the reactor, and how dry the steam is (which affects the heat content)?
Andrea Rossi July 30th, 2011 at 6:11 AM
Dear Prof. Brian Josephson (Nobel Prize), First of all, thank you for your very important attention. Please read very carefully what I am writing to you: 1-The 1 MW plant that we will start up in October will be tested, on behalf of our Customer, by very, very high level world class scientists. You are in the list, so please, if you want and you can, take free the last week of October. 2- The test will be witnessed by several very, very high level world class scientific journalists 3- The E-Cats we are working with now in our factories, which will be the modules of the 1 MW plant, are producing perfectly dry steam, mostly without energy input, as you will see yourself if you will honour us with your presence. Very Warm Regards, Andrea Rossi
Done properly (and it will have to be), this public launch should provide enough proof for potential customers. At that point, and not before (no matter who calls for it) we will have some certainty about what happens next. If the launch is also attended by senior science correspondents, this is also the time we should see the story break – one way or another, depending on results. As so many people have said before, proving such a beast will not be hard and the time for preparation should help arm those like Brian Josephson (assuming he accepts) to be ready to give us a definitive ‘yes’ or ‘no’.
Where did you come up with the 1/3, and why are you exponentiating it 14700 times anyway...?
Color me "lost."
Cheers!
Cheers!
Hey moron, read my post again. I didn't accuse you of violating anything but simple manners and normal adult behavior.
If you don’t want posts/replies back, then don’t post on FR
I've been posting here for almost five years, and have no intentions on letting a toad like you run me off.
That said, we can keep up this stupid banter for as long as you like, if you're too childish to stop talking to someone who has asked you nicely to take a hike. Maybe I can do some good by keeping you distracted, so you don't bother my fellow Freepers.
These articles you are posting...
And what articles would those be, moron? I didn't post this thread, or didn't you notice that, genius?
Only on crevo threads and Palin threads.
I was just about to compare this obnoxious little toad to a PDSer, but he's even worse than that. He keeps trying to draw me into an argument that he's having all by himself. Must be lonely, weird thing.
Kevmo, give me 250k, I will make sure Rossi gets it..you will be rich.
No worries, I have invited President Obama to guarantee the investment for you.
You try to be so Physics smart but show you are so people dumb.
“posts/replies”
Read Read Read again....
Where did you come up with the 1/3, and why are you exponentiating it 14700 times anyway...?
***1/3 is the presumptive chance that ~1 out of 3 experiments independently generated excess heat but the calorimetry is a mistake, even though they are obviously aware of the criticism in the first place. The excess heat experiment has been repeated worldwide roughly 14,000 times successfully according to an estimate by J. He (Front. Phys. China, 2007). Therefore, the chances that all 14000 experiments suffered the same independent failure of calorimetry is (1/3)^14000.
If you think the presumptive chance is 50%, then it would be (1/2)^14700 or if the presumptive chance is 75% then it would be (.75)^14700
So... experts can be wrong. Whoda thunk?
Maybe rocks do fall from the sky.
I hope that others are watching this exchange, and seeing that you’re something of a crackpot stalker.
I’ve told you over and over that I’m not interested in your conspiracy theory and I don’t want to talk to you, yet you insist on talking to me.
Do us both a favor and find a group of fellow crackpots to talk to. I’m sure they’d be very interested in everything you have to say. Me - not so much.
As long as you continue to post about me or reply to me, I will reply.
Did anyone explain to you how internet forums work?
And what if there is more than one failure / error mode? Or the possibility that *some* at least were lying?
Cheers!
It is a first pass attempt at generating a number. The exercise is meant to show how impossible such an assertion is. In fact, I developed the IMPOSSibility MAGnum to make it even easier to see.
Chances of bad calorimetry error : 140 Impossibles
Orders of magnitude involved in Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle being “modified” in the KP Sinha theory: 2 Impossibles.
Don’t know if you can treat them as strictly indpendent: as they had similar setups or lab equipment?
***This would be balanced out by the obvious and overbearing criticism of calorimetry experiments from the hot-fusion physics crowd. Anyone engaging in these LENR experiments would be familiar with the criticism.
I've asked you several times to just quit talking to me, but it's apparent that you've got a crush on me.....or something...
I think you have
You just have to keep posting to me, ok ... another chance for you to quit it
Why are you repeating after me?
Now, think real hard. Remember that I asked you first? I asked you real nicely, too, but you won't go away.
I swear, you must want my body or.....something...
I have, repeatedly. More correctly, I have pointed out where the various critiques of his demonstrations were wrong. Just look back at my posts on the topic.
If you don't understand the difference between "needing investment or approval" to responding to comments on his blog, then there's little hope for you. But then, I knew that from the get-go.
Since in the US, there are about 50 research institutions with about one research group each that could credibly do this experiment (several of which have concluded that it is a hoax, a fact you keep overlooking) the claim that there are 14,000 credible observations is a total and utter fabrication. It is another one of your hoaxes. You might as well ask me to address the claim that there are 14,000 astronmical observations of the sun rising in the west. It is a lie every way you look at it. Just as this is.
It seems that many physicists are falling into that same kind of thought-mode today. I suspect Mother Nature will "bitch-slap" them once again. Perhaps cold-fusion will be the vehicle, perhaps not.
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