Posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
What's the matter with kids today and why doesn't anyone want them around? In June, Malaysia Airlines banned babies from many of their first class cabins, prompting other major airlines to consider similar policies.
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Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.
According to a Pittsburgh local news poll, more than half of area residents were in favor of the ban. And now big business is paying attention.
"Brat bans could well be the next frontier in destination and leisure-product marketing," writes Robert Klara in an article on the child-free trend in AdWeek.
Klara points to Leavethembehind.com, a travel website for kid-free vacations, with a massive list of yoga retreats, luxury resorts and bargain hotels around the world that ban children.
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I bet the other patrons were tempted to give a round of applause.
Problem is in this modern world of people looking for handouts people would then tell their kids to be a pain so they can get a free dinner. Now restaurants rush the food to the brat table to get them out fast.
"654. The ownership of a thing is the right of one or more persons to possess and use it to the exclusion of others. In this Code, the thing of which there may be ownership is called property."
COMMON SENSE AT LAST!
AFAIC, if these "parents" have to drag their little darlings to the 'adults' eatery, it means they really can't afford to be there...otherwise they would spend some money on a sitter.
Often enough, instead of taking them to the 'family' restaurant, where they would have to PAY for a kid's meal, I've seen them try to get an 'extra plate' and give them some of this or that off thier plates, and chisle by feeding the kid without paying extra. I'm probably not too far wrong in assuming that they don't tip accordingly, either...if at all.
One I knew had a "policy" of either no tip for "okay service"; or a flat $1, depending on whether she 'got good service', with no regard to price or quality; nor how many 'extra' demands she made, etc.
Yep. I say to them "Hey thanks for saving the world from Hiter and Tojo... and then screwing up your kids and making them the 60s generation." I've always wondered how the GG created the Baby Boomer mentality. Is it because the parents were too giving towards their children because they had nothing growing up in the depression, because they were so strict and abusive (seems like a lot of boomers I knew had fathers who beat their moms) that the 60s were a unavoidable reaction, because they were so unwilling to discuss facts of life (refusing to talk to their kids about things like sex instead of telling them what it is but also stressing that it was something meant by God for two married people to enjoy) leaving the kids completely unknowing what to do when they reached "maturity", a combination of the above, or something else?
Except for the part where she says she played a disturbed mother in the movie "Without." ;-)
In a couple of decades we’ll be wondering while the birth rate is way down.
Does sound a bit like Tommy Chong playing a stoner.
Sadly, they care more about being their 'friends', than their parents.
I do tend to avoid places that have a kids menu, but I do get that if they have one, its a family place, and I understand that. I'm surprised you don't see alot kids when you dine out, I see them alot, including bars over where I live (when their parents try to bring them in).
I have children and have no problem with this. Free Enterprise allows for a private business to set their own rules. Many bitched about non-smoking places but I loved it because I don’t like cigarette smoke. There will be people who bitch about this but they can take their screaming kids to someplace that welcomes them.
That’s a good way to handle it. Unfortunately for most parents, they fail to see McDonalds as a training ground so they use it as a playground instead. Kids need to play, to roughhouse, to run around, but not indoors. They need that exercise on a playground or in the backyard, or in a creek, or up a tree. Parents just need to each them when to behave and when to horse around.
Yes. This is the new and improved gay culture; the watermelon “overpopulation” freakoids’ dream come true. Turn those with no children against the people with children. Hate children. Do not tolerate children. Gays call them “breeders.”
There is no question that many parents don’t know how to raise and train their children anymore. And there is no question that these same anti-kid adults would rant and rave - call the police - if they saw or heard of a parent spank their child. Most of the time children are awake is spend in public institutions and these strangers have no self discipline, respect, love and morals. They are teaching other people’s girls to pole dance in British public schools. And homos are working over American children here.
I don’t know about others, but we rarely did adult things with our chlidren before they were trained to be in public. We tag teamed for shopping. We did not go to fancy resturants (couldn’t afford to). We would not dream of taking them to the theater or a public entertainment venue designed for adults. All this would be too stressful for us! We did not turn them over to strangers to raise.
When the kids got older (starting around 3), it was an honor to be permitted to go with us on a short adult trip. If they screwed up, they knew they would not be coming along for a long time.
My seven year old got hollared at by a young feminist once for holding the door open for her - the little sexist pig. Which is another reason I didn’t like taking them out among American adults often. American adults are largely self indulgent immoral pigs these days. That goes hand in hand with the hatred of “breeders.”
As a baby boomer, I can safely say my own parents weren’t among those who bought into the Dr. Spock lies that resulted in selfish baby-boomers. My father believed if you spare the rod you spoil the child.
Holder’s Kids?
I totally agree with you. Their place, their rules.
But the smoking nazis who profess freedom to do business somehow find ways to draw the line when it comes to smokers.
Yes. Last night at a semi-upscale seafood place we encountered children running through the place and shrieking, chasing and playing as though they were on a playground.
Since they didn’t light at any table, parents could not be identified. These were not toddlers but 7, 8 or 9 year olds. It was weird.
Ugh, kids in bars. I was visiting some friends in Brooklyn and we all went out to get a drink. I got sloshed and started using colourful language. This nunce comes up to me and says her toddler doesn’t need to hear such words.
Kids in a place with a kid’s menu? No problem. I generally don’t eat at those places either. But, why, why do you have a kid in a bar?
>>I tell them to discuss it with their therapist when they are older. LOL!<<
That is a brilliant line.
>>”Hey thanks for saving the world from Hiter and Tojo... and then screwing up your kids and making them the 60s generation.” I’ve always wondered how the GG created the Baby Boomer mentality. Is it because the parents were too giving towards their children because they had nothing growing up in the depression<<
I suspect they were drinking and prescription drugging themselves into oblivion and didn’t care to raise their dumplings. The kids were props to the perfect lifestyles.
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