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Who are the Coptic Christians?
Guardian UK ^ | Wednesday, May 11, 2011 | Jonathan Jones

Posted on 05/11/2011 6:54:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

Attacks on churches, communal divisions -- Cairo has recently seen conflicts between some Muslims and Coptic Christians. But who exactly are the Copts and how did they come to be in Egypt? Part of the answer lies in Coptic art... in the 19th and 20th centuries excavators such as William Flinders Petrie developed truly scientific archaeological techniques and looked beyond the tombs of the kings into the buried worlds of Egypt's past. Petrie, who excavated at Fayoum, looked not just for treasures but pottery and cloth.

Egypt's climate preserves materials that usually perish, including wood, papyrus, and cloth. Even shoes from ancient Egypt's later period under Roman rule have survived. Another stunning type of material discovered by early 20th-century archaeologists was Coptic woven art. Early Christians in Egypt buried their dead with finely woven clothes and shrouds that have survived along with Biblical papyri, paintings and sculpture. In 1910, the Coptic Museum in old Coptic Cairo opened to show such relics released from the earth...

So to return to that question I asked above, exactly who are the Copts? The answer is clear from this connection. Coptic Christianity dates back to the first couple of hundred years after the lifetime of Christ. The people who converted to Christianity were the ancient Egyptians, as well as Jewish, Greek and Roman inhabitants of Egypt. This is even clearer when alongside the art of Coptic Egypt you consider the Coptic language preserved in ancient papyri and manuscripts and still used in the Coptic liturgy today... In the British Museum in London is the Rosetta Stone... the French scholar Jean-Francois Champollion... studied Coptic as part of his quest, because he rightly saw that it was descended from ancient Egyptian. That is, the language of the Coptic liturgy is the language of ancient Egypt.

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From the land of the pharaohs ... the Coptic Museum in Cairo. Photograph: Reuters

Who are the Coptic Christians?

1 posted on 05/11/2011 6:54:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: nickcarraway

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2 posted on 05/11/2011 6:55:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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3 posted on 05/11/2011 6:56:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

They smoke a lot of Pot!


4 posted on 05/11/2011 6:57:51 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: sauropod

read


5 posted on 05/11/2011 6:58:48 PM PDT by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: SunkenCiv

What Coptic Christians?


6 posted on 05/11/2011 7:05:17 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Cheetahcat

You may be confusing Coptic Egyptians wih the Ethiopian version.

Mostly the Ethiopian version does ganga and not all all by any means.

Most famous of them:

http://orthodoxhistory.org/2011/05/11/30-year-anniversary-of-bob-marleys-death/


7 posted on 05/11/2011 7:17:38 PM PDT by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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To: eleni121

“You may be confusing Coptic Egyptians wih the Ethiopian version.

Mostly the Ethiopian version does ganga and not all all by any means.

Most famous of them:

http://orthodoxhistory.org/2011/05/11/30-year-anniversary-of-bob-marleys-death/";

Maybe, I thought it was the Egypt bunch but the info came from some Pot heads so who knows?


8 posted on 05/11/2011 7:38:19 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: SunkenCiv

I know a Coptic Christian.

He is one funny dude.


9 posted on 05/11/2011 8:12:23 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: SunkenCiv

Seeing that Copt is just the ancient Greek word for Egyptian this is not much of a surprise. The other Egyptians are descendants of Arab migrants into Byzantine Egypt, plus the descendants of the Copts who converted to Islam. This group was substantial, since many Copts were Monophysite and were persecuted by Orthodox Christianity.


10 posted on 05/11/2011 9:27:06 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: SunkenCiv
Spoon, HELL! Gag me with a STEAMSHOVEL load of BS!

Their survival is a tribute to the religious tolerance of Islam. How many Islamic communities survived in medieval Christian Europe? As for modern times, a Europe that murdered six million Jews less than a century ago is in no position to vaunt its tolerance.

11 posted on 05/11/2011 10:28:42 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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ApplegateRanch: "Their survival is a tribute to the religious tolerance of Islam.
How many Islamic communities survived in medieval Christian Europe?
As for modern times, a Europe that murdered six million Jews less than a century ago is in no position to vaunt its tolerance."

Ouch! Oh dear me...

First of all, that medieval Islam was sometimes more tolerant than medieval Christianity is a given.
After all, Reformation era Christians murdered each other by the millions, and on weekends went after Jews and Muslims.

But that was then.

And your comparison of today's Muslims to Nazi Germans is totally apt -- indeed some have argued that the Holocaust began with Muslim demands to their ally Hitler that if he wanted Middle East oil, he'd first have to get rid of his Jews.

And this is now:

The inheritors (if not progenitors) of the Nazi Holocaust -- radical Islam -- have worked since WWII to drive all non-Muslim populations (Jews, Christians, Hindus) out of Islam dominated countries.
In Egypt, for example, Copts were reduced from about 15% of the population 100 years ago to now maybe half that.

In short, Islam is becoming as intolerant as medieval Christianity used to be, while Christianity is today far more tolerant than Islam ever was.

12 posted on 05/12/2011 5:27:04 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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"They smoke a lot of Pot!"

Well then: Can I become a Coptic? I already have the rolling pape's.

13 posted on 05/12/2011 11:30:18 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: eleni121

I remember the Zion Coptic Church in Miami, they had their church on Star Island in Biscayne Bay.


14 posted on 05/12/2011 11:32:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BroJoeK

Just to be clear, the italicized portion of my post was the last paragraph of the article posted; not my words.


15 posted on 05/12/2011 11:52:30 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: I Buried My Guns

“Well then: Can I become a Coptic? I already have the rolling pape’s.”

LMAO


16 posted on 05/12/2011 1:17:27 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Hmmm. Now I'm curious to hear Coptic spoken.
17 posted on 05/12/2011 4:40:50 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

You can just go to Pennsylvania to hear it spoken. Surely you’ve heard of the Keystone Kopts?


18 posted on 05/12/2011 7:25:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SunkenCiv

We've gotta go to Pennsylvania, boys!

19 posted on 05/13/2011 12:40:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv

placemark.


20 posted on 05/13/2011 11:15:20 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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