Posted on 09/27/2010 1:34:18 PM PDT by marbren
(NECN: Washington) - A press conference was held this afternoon at the National Press Club in Washington, where at least a dozen former U.S. Air Force personnel, mostly officers who worked on secret projects connected to sensitive nuclear weapons sites, are admitting that they were privy to UFO and alien-related incidents -- that occurred during their time of service.
In this clip, you will hear from: Retired Air Force Captain Robert Salas, Former Air Force Lieutenant Colonel Dwayne Arneson and Former Air Force Official Bill Jameson
(Excerpt) Read more at necn.com ...
Excellent points.
LOL.
I laid some more block for the wall outside the foam board insulation of the solar raised tomato bed/mini-greenhouse. It now has a fierce white fly infestation that I seem to have gotten from a home big box store’s tomato plants. Not sure if I should whack them all back and spray the dickens out of the stubs or let them freeze and start over. Sigh.
I also need to finish glazing 2 panels—one needs to be a 3rd door panel not yet made and repair an older door panel on it.
I’d still be interested in your serious responses to Monday’s conference presentations that are available at the links.
LOL.
I’d be very interested in your sersious responses as a person and as an RC Christian.
Nobody but you and now one of your freeper friends have made this kind of claim.
I am not the one that started the idea of a disorder...You are the one that wanted to know if anybody around me thought I had OCD...Obsessive Compulsive Disorder...which I had to look up to find out what it was. “An anxiety disorder characterized by intrusive thoughts that produce uneasiness, apprehension, fear, or worry.” Quix, I have NO fear, uneasiness, apprehension or worry about ET’s/fallen angels/demons at all. You can either take my word about that or not. But from reading your posts I do get the picture of an individual that does appear to be fearful of what is coming...I could be wrong since I am only basing this upon what I have read in these posts. That is why I have tried to keep this at a discussion of ideas and not as an attack on the individual. If what I have posted felt like an attack I apologize, that was not the intention. But you have flat out attacked me as a person with trying to label me as on a “high horse”, wondering if others around thought I had “OCD” or perfectionism.
As I said before, if you were offended by what I have posted I apologize, but please do not ping me again...we obviously have a problem communicating.
Are you saying you thought that was new information???
No sweat.
I apologize for offending you.
Thrilled you’re not a perfectionist. It has been a dreadful thing to have to overcome. That may have left me over-eager to try and encourage others to deal with such tendencies.
Hopefully, we can communicate better in the future.
off topic ping to those two:
You may find this thread on ATS about the Iceland volcanoes very interesting:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread586927/pg1
Icelander asserts that things are more serious than is being stated on normal media stations.
I find ancient manuscripts to be very illuminating. Enoch for instance offers the backdrop for Genesis 6, i.e. what led to the Noah flood. Another book in Charlesworth's Pseudepigrapha offers the backdrop for Genesis 12, i.e. events preceding Abraham's being called. Another in the collection offers the backdrop for Satan's attitude towards Job. And so on.
Of course not all ancient manuscripts are created equal. Some are absurd folk lore. Some are interesting, showing what the Rabbis thought way back when. And some are piercingly relevant such as Enoch which is quoted directly and indirectly in the New Testament.
But not everyone has the same interest in ancient manuscripts. The important part is to follow the Spirit's leading, including whether or not to explore such things and to what end.
But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. - I John 2:27
Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. - I Corinthians 2:14
Anything is possible up there but not sure of the facts he was putting out.
Grimsvotn though is the only one that has any above normal activity besides residuals from eyjaf that still have to be watched.
Katla is pretty much below normal even.
Thanks.
How much below normal?
Finally got a used copy on the way.
Thx Thx.
What prompted my initial question to you (a thoroughly innocent question as to whether you include Enoch I in your Scripture) is the fact that, first, you hold that we are under attack by fallen angels and, second, Enoch I is the authoritative source for what we know as to the identity and nature of those creatures.
I was actually just curious as to your thoughts on the matter, particularly in light of the fact that you have taught on Gen 6.
Your response about Enoch I not being in the table of contents of your Bible was rather shocking to me when your strength in this war comes from holding fast to the Word of God.
Let me elaborate here.
What was confusing to me was this. You reject Enoch as not part of your Scripture because it was NOT approved as canon. BUT the very reason it was excluded from canon was because it differs from what you currently holds as God's Truth about fallen angels.
As I said in one comment, citing a comment by Alamo-Girl, many Church fathers accepted Enoch I for the same reasons you believe what it preaches about fallen angels.
Others (including those who happened to approve canon) did not. They either clung to the strange and untenable belief that the "Sons of God" were Sons of Seth who married daughters of Cain OR they just didn't want to deal with the issue at all. Either way, their rejection of Enoch I removed it from our Biblical canon and from your table of contents.
That is the reason I responded to you. At first I was just curious as to your thoughts...and then I was shocked by what I perceived as an anomaly.
It seemed to me, the Holy Spirit had spoken to you about the identity of fallen angels, yet you were unaware of the one Book on that subject because others, who believed differently than you, told you to reject it.
If I was the devil, I would not want people to learn about Enoch. Maybe he had something to do with getting it out of the Bible.
Perhaps Satan went to the Lord like he did in Job and asked God to keep that out of the Bible
It is interesting that both these translations (Charles in 1906 and Laurence in 1920 IIRC) were made many years before the Book of Enoch I was found among the fragments of the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in caves near in Qumran between 1946 and 1956.
The Charles and Richards translations used the copy discovered by James Bruce in Ethiopia in 1773 (that was the date of his return to London).
And yet it keeps popping up!
NYer, shame on you!
I know Quix to be a deeply religious man. And frankly, a lot of people are curious about UFOs.
Bill Clinton asked Webb Hubbell to learn about secret UFO research. The UN has a UFO ambassadore for crying out loud!
Any physical subject can be called a distraction from God.
“I’m hungry. I think I’ll go eat something.”
“Talk of food distracts people from God.”
NYer, I’m curious how many times you’ve been distracting people from God by your own logic?
That’s great news, dear brother in Christ! I look forward to any comments you may have.
All:
http://www.datelinezero.com/?p=4274
The Royal Academy to discuss “extra-terrestrial life and the UN agenda”
he UN’s Mazlan Othman says she’ll be attending the conference at The Royal Society of London for the Improvement of Natural Knowledge (aka “The Royal Society“) next week. She has said that she’ll be talking about how the world deals with “near-Earth objects.”
Mazlan Othman, is the Malaysian astrophysicist who heads the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA). She has also denied rumors that she’ll be appointed the UN’s Earth Ambassador to extraterrestrials.
Discussing “near-Earth objects” sounds like an important issue. After all, an asteroid was recently detected that will pass “dangerously close” to the Earth in mid-October.
But one look at The Royal Society’s website reveals that the topic of the conference isn’t “near-Earth objects.” Rather, the title of the conference is: “Towards a scientific and societal agenda on extra-terrestrial life.”
More interesting: Othman is going to join other panelists at The Royal Society to discuss first (official) contact, and what role the UN should play, among other related issues.
Over the weekend she apparently made a comment to someone in the British Press, and that person mistakenly reported that Mazlan Othman was about to be appointed the UN’s Earth Ambassador. That story was picked up by other news outlets, and blogged (including by me).
The Guardian reports on what happened after the mistaken report about the UN’s appointing an Earth Ambassador, as well as her dismissal of the news and what she claims is the topic of discussion at The Royal Society:
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What’s really going to be talked about (and maybe this is what somehow confused the reporter over the weekend) is this, from The Royal Society’s own conference page:
Should extra-terrestrial life exist, upcoming efforts will provide living generations with a realistic chance of its detection. Even more than the scientific agenda, a corresponding complementary societal agenda needs to be debated. With a mix of invited talks and panel debates, we particularly look into the detection of life, the communication with potential extra-terrestrial civilizations, the implications for the future of humanity, and the political processes that are required.
Four panel debates at the conference are to include:
Could it be that Mazlan Othman is going to be appointed an Earth Ambassador, of sorts; and the UN somehow didn’t want the news getting out just yet? Or perhaps what’s really being organized isn’t really a single “Earth Ambassador;” but rather, a collection of ambassadors — like a bureaucracy. After all, that’s how these collectivists prefer to operate.
Perhaps the whole Earth Ambassador thing was supposed to remain a secret, and she was told to deny the whole affair?
Whatever the case, this is clearly not a “near-Earth objects” conference. It’ll be interesting to see what becomes of this event.
Confirmed panelists include:
Ivan Almar, Stephen Baxter, James Benford, David Brin, Milan Cirkovic, Richard Crowther, Kathryn Denning, Steven Dick, Stephane Dumas, Frans von der Dunk, John Elliott, Lisa Kaltenegger, Claudio Maccone, Michael Michaud, Mazlan Othman, Ted Peters, Margaret Race, Seth Shostak, John Smart, Nicholas Tosca, Doug Vakoch, Clement Vidal, Felisa Wolfe-Simon, Alexander Zaitsev
From what I had read of your posts I thought that we were in agreement...thank you for verifying that.
I honestly had not heard about the Book of Enoch before...then again I might have heard it mentioned once before, (something about aliens) but never really looked into it.
My understanding of fallen angels actually comes from the study of the Scriptures...even with out the Book of Enoch. I do believe that the Holy Spirit will give us understanding of the reality around us through God's Word if we will let Him...it appears that He has in my case.
I will look into the Book of Enoch...at this point I would say that I would not “include” it as Scripture, but will check it out against Scripture as I do with everything that I read or here.
Thank you again for your post and the information you have shared...I appreciate it.
God bless
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