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To: WorldviewDad
I went back over every post you made and find that you and I are in agreement on everything.

What prompted my initial question to you (a thoroughly innocent question as to whether you include Enoch I in your Scripture) is the fact that, first, you hold that we are under attack by fallen angels and, second, Enoch I is the authoritative source for what we know as to the identity and nature of those creatures.

I was actually just curious as to your thoughts on the matter, particularly in light of the fact that you have taught on Gen 6.

Your response about Enoch I not being in the table of contents of your Bible was rather shocking to me when your strength in this war comes from holding fast to the Word of God.

Let me elaborate here.

What was confusing to me was this. You reject Enoch as not part of your Scripture because it was NOT approved as canon. BUT the very reason it was excluded from canon was because it differs from what you currently holds as God's Truth about fallen angels.

As I said in one comment, citing a comment by Alamo-Girl, many Church fathers accepted Enoch I for the same reasons you believe what it preaches about fallen angels.

Others (including those who happened to approve canon) did not. They either clung to the strange and untenable belief that the "Sons of God" were Sons of Seth who married daughters of Cain OR they just didn't want to deal with the issue at all. Either way, their rejection of Enoch I removed it from our Biblical canon and from your table of contents.

That is the reason I responded to you. At first I was just curious as to your thoughts...and then I was shocked by what I perceived as an anomaly.

It seemed to me, the Holy Spirit had spoken to you about the identity of fallen angels, yet you were unaware of the one Book on that subject because others, who believed differently than you, told you to reject it.

653 posted on 10/03/2010 5:10:17 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

If I was the devil, I would not want people to learn about Enoch. Maybe he had something to do with getting it out of the Bible.

Perhaps Satan went to the Lord like he did in Job and asked God to keep that out of the Bible


654 posted on 10/03/2010 5:31:52 AM PDT by winodog
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To: WorldviewDad
In case you are interested, here are links to the (The Ethiopian Enoch) R.H. Charles and Richard Laurence interpretations of Enoch I.

It is interesting that both these translations (Charles in 1906 and Laurence in 1920 IIRC) were made many years before the Book of Enoch I was found among the fragments of the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in caves near in Qumran between 1946 and 1956.

The Charles and Richards translations used the copy discovered by James Bruce in Ethiopia in 1773 (that was the date of his return to London).

655 posted on 10/03/2010 5:50:17 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Thank you for your response.

From what I had read of your posts I thought that we were in agreement...thank you for verifying that.

I honestly had not heard about the Book of Enoch before...then again I might have heard it mentioned once before, (something about aliens) but never really looked into it.

My understanding of fallen angels actually comes from the study of the Scriptures...even with out the Book of Enoch. I do believe that the Holy Spirit will give us understanding of the reality around us through God's Word if we will let Him...it appears that He has in my case.

I will look into the Book of Enoch...at this point I would say that I would not “include” it as Scripture, but will check it out against Scripture as I do with everything that I read or here.

Thank you again for your post and the information you have shared...I appreciate it.

God bless

660 posted on 10/03/2010 2:21:13 PM PDT by WorldviewDad (following God instead of culture)
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