The little troll and I have had numerous discussions on his/her/its BS over the past few months. Here in a candid moment.
And a couple of days later admitted how it gets paid.
Posted on 08/08/2010 8:03:11 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Passport documents for Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro recently released by the State Department did not include any birth-certificate documentation for Barack Obama, despite a memorandum in the file claiming he was born in Honolulu.
The released documents indicate Dunham's husband, Lolo Soetoro, petitioned the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the State Department in 1967 to obtain a waiver to return to the United States to rejoin his wife and her infant son, Barack Obama Jr.
A WND timeline drawn from the State Department's July 29 Freedom of Information Act release of passport documents indicates Lolo Soetoro returned to Indonesia July 20, 1966, after completing his studies at the University of Hawaii. Soetoro was required to complete a mandatory two-year residence requirement in Indonesia before he could be granted a visa to return to the U.S.
In an apparent attempt to establish the nationality of Barack Obama Jr., a person named Mix submitted a poorly typed and difficult-to-decipher memo to the file, dated Sept. 14, 1967, without identifying any official position he or she may have held with State Department at that time.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
1. The very first recorded itty-bitty baby Barak sighting was in Mercer Island WA, an hour or so’s drive away from Vancouver CANADA, and 2500 miles from Honolulu. This was by Susan Blake, who also reports that she showed Stanley Ann how to change a diaper. IOW, she hadn't learned yet!
A long flight from Kenya, or a long boat ride from Hawaii would have given her plenty of opportunity to learn to change a diaper. A short drive from Vancouver, not so much.
If the embarrassed parents of an unmarried Stanley Ann did send her away to have the baby elsewhere, Barak could well be a British Subject...
2. Stanley Ann was said to be knocked up in Hawaii Dec 1960, married in Maui in Feb 1961, in class at U Wash in Mar 1961, Barack born at ? in Aug 1961, newborn at Mercer Island WA in Aug 1961.
If I look at that and don't squint very hard I see four known location data points, two in Hawaii, well before Barack was born, and two in Washington bracketing when Barack was born.
If I knew nothing else, I'd interpolate the birth data point as being close to Washington, especially given that Mercer Island was within "a few weeks" of birth.
Thanks for the information, I always wondered if this is the document they are trying to palm off as legit.
Democrat Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi knows that Barack Hussein Obama is not eligible for the office of president, which is why she certified the following language only in Hawaii.
THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United states of America, held in Denver, Colorado on Aug 25th through 28th, 2008,the following were duly nominated as candidates of said Party for President and Vice president of the United States respectively and the following candidates are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution
This is the language filed by the DNC in the other 49 states
THIS IS TO CERTIFY that at the National Convention of the Democratic Party of the United States of America, held in Denver, Colorado on August 25th through 28, 2008, the following were duly nominated as candidates of said party for President and Vice President of the United States respectively
” Claim by CNN is it is his birth certificate. ? “
This drives me crazy.
The state of Hawaii said that they have Barry’s original birth certificate and
other “ original vital records “ under seal.
If Barry’s documents have been made public, there would be nothing for Hawaii to “ seal.”
Grrrrr...
The media and the Democrat talking heads constantly ignore this.
And instead focus on the faux physician* Fukino’s bizarre and unsupported declaration that she has decided Barry is a natural born citizen.
* Not Board Certified, had to be tutored for a year to get into the Hawaiian medical school ,
part of a Hawaiian program that lets native Hawaiians become doctors specifically to treat native Hawaiians , Fiji, Pago Pago islanders ,
practices native Hawaiian healing like chants and using plants and herbs and lobbied Hawaiian legislature to allow new mothers to take home their placentas to bury in the backyards..
I'm not "flying off the handle". I simply disagreed with what you said about the usage of the word 'infant'.
The word has never been generally used in this country to include people over the age of about two.
Perhaps you found some obscure legal usage of the term, but you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who uses that word to refer to children up to the age of 18 (as you claimed).
Lovely.......they better plant 'em deep if they have a mutt.
And what "four document experts" would those be?
Can't be Polarik. He's not a document expert.
Can't be Techdude either. He's an even bigger fraud.
Can't even be Sandra Lines, because she never "debunked" the COLB.
So who are your "four document experts" then?
Let's not forget Rush, Hannity, Beck, Levine, Ingram, Coulter and the other so-called “conservative” media that remained silent and let this happen. I have nothing but CONTEMPT for these weenies.
If they can't defend the Constitution, **ALL** of it, in the face of a little ridicule, why on earth would we expect these phonies and cowards to defend it in the face of real tyranny, jack boots in the streets, and concentration camps? Huh?
If tyranny comes to America, these so-called conservative yappers will spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.
That's right. It's nothing but a digital file. No one has ever stated that they have seen the document that was allegedly scanned to create the file. No one not even Baghdad Bob Gibbels who has stated that he personally put the file on the internet. (thus implicating himself in document fraud if it is ever proven to be a fraud) The Hawaii Dept. of Health has never said they have ever issued a COLB either.
Are you the day shift troll? lol
This drives me crazy.
The state of Hawaii said that they have Barry’s original birth certificate and
other “ original vital records “ under seal.
If Barry’s documents have been made public, there would be nothing for Hawaii to “ seal.”
Grrrrr...
The media and the Democrat talking heads constantly ignore this.
And instead focus on the faux physician* Fukino’s bizarre and unsupported declaration that she has decided Barry is a natural born citizen.
* Not Board Certified, had to be tutored for a year to get into the Hawaiian medical school ,
part of a Hawaiian program that lets native Hawaiians become doctors specifically to treat native Hawaiians , Fiji, Pago Pago islanders ,
practices native Hawaiian healing like chants and using plants and herbs and lobbied Hawaiian legislature to allow new mothers to take home their placentas to bury in the backyards..
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However the Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle, the Attorney General of Hawaii, Mark L. Bennett and the Registrar of Vital Statistics, Alvin Onaka have all backed Fukino up.
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle (R)
That’s right. It’s nothing but a digital file. No one has ever stated that they have seen the document that was allegedly scanned to create the file. No one not even Baghdad Bob Gibbels who has stated that he personally put the file on the internet. (thus implicating himself in document fraud if it is ever proven to be a fraud) The Hawaii Dept. of Health has never said they have ever issued a COLB either.
The state of Hawaii issued a copy to the Obama campaign who then forwarded it on to the St. Petersburg Times newspaper for their investigation.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/01/obamas-birth-certificate-final-chapter-time-we-mea/
‘It’s crazy,’ said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. ‘I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.’”
Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are ‘more like threats,’ explained that the Certificate of Live Birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. ‘If you were born in Bali, for example,’ Okubo explained, ‘you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.’”
The Hawaiian Department of Health has no credibility here.
However probable that is it is still an assumption.
There is no need to rely on a scanned image from a website when the state of Hawaii can print out copies of the COLB if they are ever subpoenaed to do so.
They could be they haven't.
Every state in the union issues copies of these every day of the week.
That statement is as meaningful to the discussion as saying the sun rises in the east.
The state of Hawaii issued a copy to the Obama campaign who then forwarded it on to the St. Petersburg Times newspaper for their investigation.
The Hawaii Dept. of Health has never confirmed that. Your link sites Baghdad Bob Gibbels as the source of that claim. Nuff said.
The Hawaii DoH didn’t say that they had issued a COLB. The post above leaves out a quotation mark leaving the impression that Okubo said that but she didn’t. The troll is pushing propaganda.
The little troll and I have had numerous discussions on his/her/its BS over the past few months. Here in a candid moment.
And a couple of days later admitted how it gets paid.
However probable that is it is still an assumption.
They could be they haven’t.
That statement is as meaningful to the discussion as saying the sun rises in the east.
The Hawaii Dept. of Health has never confirmed that. Your link sites Baghdad Bob Gibbels as the source of that claim. Nuff said.
If anybody really, truly wants to see Obama’s original birth records, all they need do is get a subpoena.
Under Hawaii statutes 338-18(b)(9), a certified copy of a birth record can be released without Obama’s permission to:
“A person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;”
The best way to get a judge to issue a subpoena is through the criminal side of the court system, not through the civil side. Thus far 71 lawsuits have failed.
Any grand jury investigation of Obama for forgery, fraud or election fraud could have done the trick.
Nixon was forced to resign due to the Watergate Grand Jury investigation naming him as an unindicted co-conspirator. The Whitewater Grand Jury investigation led to the impeachment charges for perjury and obstruction of justice against Bill Clinton. Grand Juries investigating elected officials don’t even need to result in indictments to have major political impact and to force the release of documents and compel reluctant witnesses to testify.
But in the three plus years since Obama first announced his candidacy for president, no one has sought a simple subpoena for his birth records. No guts, no glory.
I don’t need a grade from a troll who throws logic out the window.
I don’t need a grade from a troll who throws logic out the window.
Does this mean Obama was born in Hawaii?
“Yes,” said Hawaii Health Department spokeswoman Janice Okubo, in both email and telephone interviews with the Tribune. “That’s what Dr. Fukino is saying.”
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/11/obama_hawaaianborn_citizen_for.html
The Hawaiian Department of Health has no credibility here.
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