Posted on 05/31/2010 9:46:47 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
I have lost THREE real life friends now in trying to defend Sarah Palin. On one hand I tend to think the people who call her stupid are not the kind of people I even want as friends anyhow. However, I wonder if im being too harsh and going too far.
I know our country was divided on President Bush. But the division and the hatred for Sarah Palin has been able to top anything. Before Palin, I had a much more positive outlook on people (especially women, mothers, ect) and life in general. Now I find myself seeing people through a totally different lens.
I understand why I am so outraged as a husband and father of two girls. But what is wrong with WOMEN in this country ? they have really let Sarah Palin and her family down by not standing up enough and drawing a line in the sand.
I would imagine that the average person in this country finds those who idolize either Palin or obama, and who make it their mission to convince the world to agree, to be equally annoying.
Usually the people I talk to who vilify Palin do it with a big grin on their face as if they think they’re smartest people in the world. I then do a little quiz on them testing their knowledge of basic current events and political personalities. Invariably they come up clueless. But they actually think they’re smarter than Palin.
I had a good friend over to the house last weekend. He is a huge supporter of any Democrat and he loves Bill Maher. Among other things he said he prefers socialism to capitalism. I basically laughed at his statements knowing them to come from a very ignorant person. In the same conversation he supported the Arizona bill and agreed Al-Qaeda must be crushed. So it's not always easy to pigeon-hole people. Because I know he'd actually hate living under real socialism. He's always been jealous of people who had more they he did. But he's always had more money than me. I should ask him when he's going to start giving some of his loot.
I mostly try and keep my discussion of politics limited to being anonymous on the internet, but, yes, it irks me too when people call Palin stupid. Mostly because the ones who do so have the IQ of a can of beets.
I have three sisters, and all of them are nutty liberals. And they all have a lot more money than me (we all started out extremely lower middle class i.e. poor), two of them having total worth of over a million bucks. And they're all abysmally ignorant of current events, political personalities, and history. But we're still on good terms.
“to be equally annoying.”
Nothing comes close to the delusional state of a Kool-aide drinking Obama-bot.
“I should ask him when he’s going to start giving some of his loot.”
No need to wait for his generosity!
Next time you see him, tell him you’ve been thinking and that you changed your position re: socialism. You now believe that it’s a great idea and next election you’re voting for the person who promises you more of his money.
There is plenty of color and emotion in my life in other areas. I'm not saying this to be insulting, but I'm forming a picture of you as the guy who people say, "Oh cripes, SE is coming over. He's going to go on about Sarah Palin again." Do yourself and your wife a favor, and don't be that guy. Don't force the issue when others don't see things your way.
I wish I could agree . . . in a way.
I still believe that God has used the American experiment to show that even the best political system etc.
APART FROM HIM
will end up deadly.
I don’t think the system will succeed at anything lastingly good.
The only redemptiveness will be from God through HIS angelic forces and through those humans who are sold out to and Love Him first and foremost.
It will likely continue to rush toward hell until the literal Biblical Armageddon.
There’s some talk of replacing OThuga . . . I have always thought they put him in place to make him a scapegoat. I think worse or equal will replace him. If not, the better will only be very temporary, if that long.
If the political system would do it,
Christ was unnecessary.
The political system still has . . .
very flawed humans running it.
I lost a best friend of 30 years over the 2000 election. We had never agreed on politics, but he went ballistic saying the victory by Bush was stolen. Oh well, no great loss to lose a liberal friend.
Sometimes it’s possible to draw a boundary and exclude politics from the relationship options in terms of communications.
Sometimes it’s possible to say . . . I love you.
I believe you are deadly wrong about politics. I do not believe you will see that until it is far too late to do anything about it. It grieves me to touch politics between us. I’d like to hold onto you and our relationship. That likely means, we have to quit communicating about politics.
Or, folks can say—I’ll give you 10 pages once a month and read 10 pages from you once amonth. Otherwise, no politics.
AMEN! AMEN!
THX THX
Most probably, what you call friendship was not that. Real friends are people who you have found common ground with, have been through stuff with and who will find a way to maintain a relationship, despite differences in opinion.
It is a rare thing, and that is something I found out as I matured. You cannot count on people you call friends 99% of the time if the going gets rough. It's that 1% that you may call friend and who honors you by calling you friend.
In this current time period, things are getting dangerous. Sooner or later we will have to choose sides, and so it may be that nature, God, fate or whatever you believe in has done you a favor. I am a supporter of Mrs. Palin, and I wish her the best, I hope to be able to vote for her, but she is a politician, and will act as such. You must remember that the opinions you hold are yours and yours alone.
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To you and me perhaps, but don't kid yourself, the 'average' American is going to be turned off by any incessant political PR campaign at the personal interaction level.
Folks at little league or bowling or the beach really don't want to hear non-stop about Palin or Obama and those who don't get that are going to be shunned to some degree.
People that you love can turn like a dime on politics.
I now understand why the serbs and bosnians, and the hitus and tutsis easily butchered their neighbors. There really is no such thing as COEXISTANCE
May God richly reward you in every way for your stand for truth, integrity, the good over the evil . . . May He strengthen you in your inner man and cause your influence to spread widely.
Thanks tons for your perspective and your tenacious stand.
“sister”
I need to vent. Many years ago I realized that my sister was an intellectually limited, union-loving, left-wing, pacifist, political hack and that I should never ever again discuss politics with her. I haven’t, but I’ve stayed respectful because she does some very good and noble things in her career.
However, she has allowed her political distain for me to color her entire impression of me. Most recently, this spilled over into her sense that I wasn’t doing enough to help our near-death mother and ailing father. She took a nasty verbal shot at me and I responded with both barrels.
I’ve figured out that as a blind leftist, she’s simply unable to respect or emphatise with anyone who doesn’t agree with her about everything or who won’t do exactly what she tells them to do. End of vent, thanks.
Well, not about Palin specifically, even though I am behind her 100%, but I have estranged friends over politics in the last couple of years. Not “lost” exactly, but have a different kind of relationship with them.
I was never one to discuss politics, so friends see this as a difference in me. There have been things that bothered me but I always kept my mouth shut.
My feeling is, at this point in history, I feel I need to be talking - it’s that important. I feel I need to be educating and waking people up wherever they will listen or we are doomed as a country. So much is at at stake here.
I try and not make it about personalities but principles. When they try to turn it around to make it about people, I keep going back to issues.
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I try not to make it just about Obama (although I could go on all day about him, alone). But I make it about socialism, how dangerous this administration is (compared to previous ones) and why, if we don’t elect conservatives who believe in smaller government, cutting taxes and reigning in spending, we will be in big trouble.
You’d think folks would get that, but I find many of them really have drunk the kool-aid. Many of them still don’t get that we are increasingly socialistic, or if they do, they don’t really know what that means.
What bothers me the most is to see a friend who I always thought intelligent, refuse to think reasonably. I never in my life have thought some of my friends could be so lacking in common sense and logic.
My husband and I disagree on politics often, but he thinks for himself and makes good points. He makes sure I don’t believe everything I read at on FR without thinking about it too. Anyway, sorry to ramble, but that’s my experience.
I think it’s not wise to get ‘invested’ in Palin or any politician... but Leftists are not your friends. They want to use the threat of violence to control you and your family.
C'mon. It can't be that easy.
But, hey, it's worth a try.
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