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Lord Martin Rees, President of the Royal Society


1 posted on 02/22/2010 2:05:37 PM PST by JoeProBono
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They are running the government, they are reptilians!! aaaarrrrrgggghhhhhh


2 posted on 02/22/2010 2:07:19 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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Why is it that believers in ET life presume that said life is of higher intelligence?


3 posted on 02/22/2010 2:07:44 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Freepmail me to get on the Bourbon ping list.)
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From The Vitamin Press

4 posted on 02/22/2010 2:08:13 PM PST by TheVitaminPress (as goes the Second Amendment . . . so goes the Constitution.)
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To: JoeProBono

Lord Martin sure looks like one to me.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 2:11:05 PM PST by AlexW (Now in the Philippines . Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: JoeProBono

I think the headline was a typo. They meant Astrologer not Astronomer.


19 posted on 02/22/2010 2:17:16 PM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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22 posted on 02/22/2010 2:18:31 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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Queen's astronomer says aliens 'like us'

They like us, they REALLY like us.

23 posted on 02/22/2010 2:20:08 PM PST by Amagi (Yo, Homeland Security: Stay stupid. Stay PC. Don't profile. Look for the bomb not the bomber.)
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They can't be just like us because they would have killed themselves off by global warming millenia ago, and so can't be here among us now.

-PJ

31 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:31 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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Using the scientific method I proposed a testable hypothesis and then tested my hypothesis! Theory proven yet again!

http://www.lablit.com/article/73

In an official Royal Society statement, Rees also said: "It is surprising that many should still be sceptical of Darwinian evolution. Darwin proposed his theory nearly 150 years ago, and it is now supported by an immense weight of evidence. We are, however, fortunate compared to the US in that no major segment of UK religious or cultural life opposes the inclusion of evolution in the school science curriculum."

What was the hypothesis?

"Official scientists circa 2010 who believe in UFOs and ETs are hard line Darwinists who hate traditional Judeo-Christian religion."

33 posted on 02/22/2010 2:31:11 PM PST by bvw
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What?...No Carville yet?..
35 posted on 02/22/2010 2:35:51 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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Granted, but just HOW do they like us?


38 posted on 02/22/2010 2:55:15 PM PST by mikrofon (The retVrn - Mar. 30th)
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Queen's astronomer couldn't tell the difference between Mercury and Uranus...


41 posted on 02/22/2010 2:58:48 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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ALIENS could be among us - but we just cannot recognize them

I am not.

42 posted on 02/22/2010 3:03:38 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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A few problems with the space alien concept.

Light speed isn’t diddly in space travel. Just to get to Proxima Centauri, the star nearest to Earth, at 4.243 light years, at the speed of light takes, obviously, 4.243 years.

Enter speed of light doubling. Round off the distance to 4 light years, and at twice the speed of light it takes 2 years, four times the speed of light just 1 year, eight times the speed of light, six months....

32,786 times the speed of light, 1 hr and 8 minutes. About. Just to get to a star that is “right next door.”

So how far away might a star be that can support life?

Well, our solar system is in a thin band about 3/4ths of the way outside galactic center, on a “local arm” of one of the spiral arms of the galaxy. It is a fairly quiet place to be. Closer to the galactic core, things are much more violent and destructive, so it would be harder for life to get a foothold.

But this strongly narrows the part of the sky in which directions we might look for life. Add to that the majority of the stars are not suitable for habitable planets

And the worst factor of all: time. The galaxy is about 13 billion years old, and Earth is about 4.5 billion years old. Intelligent life on Earth is perhaps 100,000 years old, and modernity only 200 or so years. How much longer might we last? Another 100,000? Still just the blink of an eye in galactic time.

All kinds of intelligent aliens could have risen and died out, leaving behind little or no trace after a short time, unless you found a major habitat and did a lot of archaeology.


51 posted on 02/22/2010 3:53:39 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Well, I guess they are ‘like us’, if you consider that aliens would be alive... just ‘like us’. But that’s probably about it.


55 posted on 02/22/2010 4:04:05 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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Queen's astronomer says aliens 'like us'

Probably. I mean, God made us in his image and anything else as bright as we are would probably be created the same way.

64 posted on 02/22/2010 7:26:12 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: JoeProBono; Free ThinkerNY; KevinDavis; annie laurie; garbageseeker; Knitting A Conundrum; ...
Thanks JoeProBono and Free ThinkerNY. I first heard this on the audiobook version of "Out There":
"Empty space is like a kingdom, and earth and sky are no more than a single individual person in that kingdom. Upon one tree are many fruits, and in one kingdom there are many people. How unreasonable it would be to suppose that, besides the earth and the sky which we can see, there are no other skies and no other earths." -- Teng Mu, a Chinese scholar of the Sung Dynasty (960 -- 1280 A.D.) *
From the 1970s -- Thomas J Gold: "But I am not really willing to accept your premise, because it may well be that the means of communications they have are of a kind that we do not know how to receive, and that they would not have the means of communicating with sufficiently powerful radio or optical signals. That is something which, technologically, is too difficult for them but they would have some other means we would not recognize." and "What we can conclude from this is that we must think very widely as to what it takes to develop intelligence and not take us so much as a model of what is necessary." [Communication with Extraterrestial Intelligence, p 123; Sagan editor -- CETI was the old acronym]

also pertinent:
UFO Propulsion Systems
by Stanton T. Friedman
Considering that there are stars in our local neighborhood that are billions of years older than the sun, it would not be surprising if interstellar travel has been commonplace for billions of years. Several published papers have concluded that our Milky Way galaxy already has been colonized. Furthermore, it must be noted that travel between star systems is more likely to occur the closer the next system is. Zeta 1 and Zeta 2 Reticuli are both sunlike stars that are less than three light-weeks apart. Observers on a planet around one of them could easily observe planets around the other. One would certainly expect interstellar travel to develop earlier there than in our isolated corner of the neighborhood, where the nearest star to us is one hundred times farther away than the Zeta Reticulans are from each other.
 
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67 posted on 02/22/2010 7:58:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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A maple tree behind my house once made it all the way to January with green leaves, and it took the first snow of winter for it to lose them. I mentioned it to a friend, and he commented that there were two possibilities:

1. It’s the toughest tree there, and none of the other trees will mess with it.

2. It’s an alien and it hasn’t caught on to how the trees change with the seasons.

(it’s a woodes area with a steep slope. My bet is it’s from 19 years of my dad dumping the used cat litter there as compost)


78 posted on 02/22/2010 8:44:11 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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Guilty! (of being an alien)


89 posted on 02/23/2010 4:52:13 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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Queen's astronomer says aliens 'like us'...

I BET they do!


91 posted on 02/23/2010 9:52:58 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Help support a sustainable America for tomorrow. Go green by recycling Congress.)
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