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1 posted on 02/17/2010 10:10:18 AM PST by decimon
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Kindertoten ping.


2 posted on 02/17/2010 10:10:50 AM PST by decimon
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Other than 100 or so years of war and invasion, I can’t imagine why the Roman’s would talk smack about Carthage...


3 posted on 02/17/2010 10:13:42 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read. Carthaginian inscriptions, ancient chroniclers, the Old Testament and this scientist’s results all show infant sacrifice by the Carthaginians. But the “scientist” then says: “Our results show that some children were sacrificed, but they contradict the conclusion that Carthaginians were a brutal bunch who regularly sacrificed their own children.” Ridiculous. It’s like he wanted to disprove infant sacrifice and couldn’t so he just spun it that way.


4 posted on 02/17/2010 10:18:08 AM PST by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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"Our study emphasizes that historical scientists must consider all evidence when deciphering ancient societal behavior," Schwartz said. "The idea of regular infant sacrifice in Carthage is not based on a study of the cremated remains, but on instances of human sacrifice reported by a few ancient chroniclers, inferred from ambiguous Carthaginian inscriptions, and referenced in the Old Testament."

And lord knows, a modern archaeologist studying bones thousands of years old, is a much more reliable witness than a near-contemporary historian. (Insert eye-roll here).

"Our results show that some children were sacrificed, but they contradict the conclusion that Carthaginians were a brutal bunch who regularly sacrificed their own children."

LOL. Was this posted on Scrappleface?
5 posted on 02/17/2010 10:20:33 AM PST by Antoninus (The RNC's dream ticket: Romney / Scozzafava 2012)
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Please note that this is University of Pittsburgh research, so still has scientific credibility, unlike Pennsylvania State University, that can no longer be considered a credible research facility as long as Michael Mann, creator of the “horse hockey graph” of global climate change remains in their employ.


7 posted on 02/17/2010 10:26:57 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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8 posted on 02/17/2010 10:27:59 AM PST by Leisler
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Pitt-led study debunks millennia-old claims of systematic infant sacrifice in ancient Carthage

Spoilsports.

10 posted on 02/17/2010 10:29:00 AM PST by Slings and Arrows ("Jim Robinson is the onle person that sweets proper nut sweet. leave the man alone."--Sarah-bot)
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Discovering that they were perninatal does not determine the cause of death.


23 posted on 02/17/2010 4:26:08 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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Thanks decimon.

:') And King Tut was black. And there was no slavery in ancient Egypt. And the Aryans have always lived in India. And the British are indigenous to Britain (or as one wag put it, are descended from "symbolically transformed reindeer"). Carthage had a spectacularly engineered artificial port, set up to accommodate both military and commercial needs -- and yet hardly anything survived from that, or from the mighty walls of Carthage. There's been a weird undercurrent lasting a few generations, to construct a smiley-face mask over the reality of Carthage, and of course this is part of the campaign to smear ancient Rome.

The Phoenicians impress me because of their successful maritime commerce and various navies (since they remained independent city-states to the end), which took them all the way around Africa, led them to explore, colonize, and trade with western Africa as far south as modern Cameroon. Their consumption of the flesh of their own young doesn't impress me all that much -- except in a negative way.

Thanks for that link in FReepmail, I've yet to get to it, but hope to in a few minutes.

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27 posted on 02/19/2010 7:17:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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Our results show that some children were sacrificed, but they contradict the conclusion that Carthaginians were a brutal bunch who regularly sacrificed their own children."

We already know what you are M'am; now we're just negotiating the price.

28 posted on 02/19/2010 9:10:49 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (I think not, therefore I don't exist!)
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