Posted on 12/02/2009 10:49:42 AM PST by americanophile
Geologist Scott Wolter wants you to forget 1492.
While you're at it, forget the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria.
Forget all of it.
Forget Christopher Columbus because he wasn't the first European to visit North America and Wolter is out to prove it in his new book, "The Hooked X: The Key to the Secret History of North America."
Minnesota and the Great Lakes states play a key part in that history, Wolter said, as Vikings and Cistercian monks traveled here leaving behind inscriptions and evidence that they were here long before Queen Isabella hocked her jewels to finance the Columbian journey to the New World.
Wolter, a trained geologist, first became interested in North America's discovery by accident.
His firm - American Petrographic Services - was hired to analyze the weathering on the Kensington Runestone, a stone found by a farmer in western Minnesota in 1898 that had runic inscription on it.
For years, historians and archaeologists have argued about its authenticity. Many outside the area have claimed it was a hoax.
Yet, when Wolter, who had never heard of the stone, analyzed it in 2000, he discovered the weathering on the stone's inscription was at least 200 years old, meaning it was carved before 1700.
"I had originally told the Kensington Museum that they needed to understand that I will give you news you may not like and you'll still pay me," Wolter said.
When the testing came back, Wolter presented his findings at conferences and was asked to present it to archaeologists and historians.
"It was like I was talking to a wall," Wolter said.
He presented his scientific findings which had been reviewed by a panel of eight other certified geologists. All concluded the stone's carvings were more than 200 years old.
(Excerpt) Read more at winonadailynews.com ...
what about the Heavner runestones in Ok. ?
Someone marked this rock a long time ago.
http://www.heavener.k12.ok.us/community/runestone/rune.htm
Thanks for the info. I see that exhibit was back in 2000 or so. Interesting stuff. I was interested in it as a kid growing up in Minnesota. On the lookout for stones on my tromps through the woods!
Just found some site about rune stones - some found in Oklahoma that some think date back to 1100 AD. Interesting stuff. Here is from one site regarding the Kennsington stone. Along with the experts dating it and the incription - seems pretty obvious to me:
“...It is known King Magnus of Sweden sent that a party to Greenland in 1355. They never returned. It is very possible that these men [Kennsington Runestone guys] were from that party. The stone bears the date of 1362. The transliteration of the text is generally accepted as:
“Eight Goths and 22 Norwegians on a journey of exploration from Vinland very far west. We had camp by 2 rocky islands one day’s journey north from this stone. We were out fishing one day. After we came home we found 10 men red with blood and dead. AVM [Ave Maria] save us from evil.”
The inscription along the edge of the stone says:
“Have 10 men by the sea to look after our ships 14 days’ journey from this island. Year 1362.”
Sort of like Climategate.
Lots of People visited The Americas, China, Japan etc—but, like the Vikings they did little to the place. The Spanish came and brought religion and western culture to the Americas. What ever you say, Roman Catholic Church was a whole lot better that the rip out the hearts cults of the Maya and Aztec. Christobal Colombo did a great service to the peoples of the New World and the cultures of the whole world. Ask yourself this question. What would the Americas have been like is the Moors had discovered the place?
As you might be able to tell, not fond of Europeans. (and I'm Irish/Scottish/Welsh with a bit of German)
It's not at all hard to imagine if the Vikings found Newfoundland they'd find the St. Lawrence. Following that system would get you into the heart of the Midwest.
This guy is finding out how hard it is to change minds once scientists get that consensus thingy working.
Yes. The hooked X was the best evidence presented for Templar involvement. Supposedly they buried the Holy Grail or some other treasure on Oak Island, where it remains to this day guarded by the sea.
...Oklahoma! wow.
Very good point, and scary too!
It was interesting that it got integrated into the plot of “National Treasure”, but basically, the Templar navigators’ case is so thin the paper only has one side. :’)
I think this guy hurts his argument by including that.
People would still be cutting hearts out of people living a backward life style in the America’s. The Europeans brought civilization to plant earth. It wasn’t perfect but it was an improvement. What to read some sad history? Read how the Chinese treated minorities.
The only thing not attributed to the Templars by their fans *may* be the invention of ziplock sandwich bags. Which are, BTW, pretty cool. Great for storing various artifacts before burying them in an unmarked pit on Oak Island, if you must know... ;’)
Check out Hjalmar Holand’s book on the Runestone, there’s other stuff discussed in it as well. I’d try more detail off the top of my head, but it’s been 25 years since I read it.
“Europeans brought civilization to plant earth”
They’re in the process of reverting to a less civilized mode as we type.
AAMOF, so are we.
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