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Cromwell's Legacy Damages Tomb of Black Prince
The Telegraph ^ | 02 Nov 2009

Posted on 11/10/2009 10:00:03 PM PST by nickcarraway

Damage caused by Oliver Cromwell's army 350 years ago is threatening to ruin the tomb of the Black Prince in Canterbury Cathedral.

Stained glass windows overlooking the tomb of Edward, Prince of Wales, were destroyed by Puritan iconoclasts in the 1640s, allowing damaging UV rays to enter the cathedral unfiltered. Since then, clear replacements have been installed and the deterioration of the paintwork on the 14th century canopy surrounding the prince's resting place has continued.

The brilliant colours of the artworks that look down on the bronze figure of the prince are fading rapidly and the red pigment used by the original artists is turning black.

In a bid to halt the centuries of damage, restoration experts have now installed a huge blind to shield the artworks from harmful rays and created a system for regulating the humidity.

Leonie Seliger, the head of stained glass at the cathedral, said: "As far as we know this is the first time in the world that such preventative measures have been adopted.

"The information from the sensors is relayed onto a computer within the cathedral precincts 24 hours a day, and then the results are sent off for analysis.

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TOPICS: History; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: cromwell; englishhistory; godsgravesglyphs; protestant

1 posted on 11/10/2009 10:00:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

You think Cromwell did some bad stuff to religious art, wait ‘til the muslims take over!


2 posted on 11/10/2009 10:02:06 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: pepsi_junkie
Having Irish ancestry, I like to blame Cromwell for alot, but this is ridculous.

I can just see it now - some liberal journalist blaming Bush for some structural damage to a mosque 350 years from now.

3 posted on 11/10/2009 10:04:28 PM PST by KC_Conspirator (u)
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To: SunkenCiv

Ping


4 posted on 11/10/2009 10:13:00 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: pepsi_junkie

And, like Cromwell, the Muzis have a penchant for killing innocents.


5 posted on 11/10/2009 10:23:55 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: pepsi_junkie
You think Cromwell did some bad stuff to religious art, wait ‘til the muslims take over!

Some of the factions within Cromwell's New Model Army had an attitude towards religious art more or less identical to that of the modern Saudis.

6 posted on 11/10/2009 10:29:15 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: SeeSharp

But Cromwell struck down a King, so there must be something to his ability to damage a mere Prince.


7 posted on 11/10/2009 10:34:18 PM PST by donmeaker (Invicto)
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To: KC_Conspirator
A ruined mosque would be collateral damage. Cromwell destroyed the stained glass windows on purpose because he was a douchebag.
8 posted on 11/10/2009 10:41:52 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: nickcarraway
Cromwell was not fanatical for his time. He drank beer and liked music. He had to build coalitions that included Separatists, Anabaptists, Presbyterians, and High Church nobility.

Some of the Army like Major General Harrison were much more “puritanical” and the Levelers of the time supported radical egalitarian measures that Cromwell opposed.

Even in Ireland, Cromwell was a teddy bear compared to some of the previous Royalist military administrators of the island.

When Cromwell was Lord Protector, plays could be performed in London theatres with women playing the roles of women which was prohibited at times before and after Cromwell.

9 posted on 11/10/2009 10:41:52 PM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: nickcarraway

You’d have thought curtains would have been installed before now.


10 posted on 11/10/2009 11:04:02 PM PST by packrat35 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.- M Thatcher)
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11 posted on 11/11/2009 7:26:15 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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12 posted on 11/11/2009 7:54:32 PM PST by blam
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To: KC_Conspirator

My people came here on the Cromwell Cruise Lines.

I like to blame that bastard for *everything*....:-D


13 posted on 11/11/2009 7:55:29 PM PST by Salamander (I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.....)
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To: Monterrosa-24
When Cromwell was Lord Protector, plays could be performed in London theatres with women playing the roles of women which was prohibited at times before and after Cromwell.

Huh? From what I recall of the history of English drama, the theaters were closed altogether from 1642 to 1660; Cromwell was Lord Protector from 1653 to 1658.

1642 - The closing of the theatres by Parliament in 1642 is perhaps the best-known fact in the history of English drama.
1660 - Prior to the Restoration period, public English stage performances had been banned for 18 years by a Puritan regime, led by Oliver Cromwell. When theaters re-opened in 1660, it signaled a rebirth of English drama.

14 posted on 11/12/2009 5:09:11 AM PST by maryz
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To: nickcarraway

Those darned church wreckovators — not just a post Vatican II phenomenon.


15 posted on 11/12/2009 8:27:56 AM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: maryz

You are right. I was wrong.

The banning of theatres (originally a five-year ban) in 1642 occurred when Cromwell was an MP and a Colonel but was not yet a dominent figure.

Actresses of the time were mostly confined to the underground theatre and John Milton approved recitations. Milton loved both Shakespeare and Cromwell and was one of the most powerful Cromwellians to continue living in England after the Restoration without facing trail.

Of course theatre bans were periodic at other times especially during plague spikes.


16 posted on 11/12/2009 9:23:24 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 ( ...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: nickcarraway; SunkenCiv
The libs hate Cromwell because they hate the caricature they have created of Puritans. In their day, however, the Puritans were reformers and the English Revolution established permanently the primacy of Parliament and constitutional government.

There is little evidence Cromwell was an iconoclast although some in his army were. Fact is much more damage was done to religious structures by Thomas Cromwell, Henry VIII's chief minister, who among other things led the effort to close the abbeys and confiscate their wealth.

17 posted on 11/12/2009 11:54:52 AM PST by colorado tanker (What's it all about, Barrrrry? Is it just for the power, you live?)
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To: Salamander

Really! My family happens to be from Northern Ireland, Tyrone county. Its no surprise that they all joined the Revolution and even one served in the continental army.


18 posted on 11/12/2009 5:08:01 PM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: KC_Conspirator

Free Ulster!


19 posted on 11/12/2009 8:36:17 PM PST by Salamander (I'm sure I need some rest but sleepin' don't come very easy in a straight white vest.....)
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