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New York’s Coldest Case: A Murder 400 Years Old
The New York Times ^ | 05 Sep 2009 | Sam Roberts

Posted on 09/06/2009 2:01:04 PM PDT by BGHater

The victim: John Colman.

Not much is known about him, much less about his murder. His body was hastily buried and has never been found. A weapon was recovered, but it vanished. The only account of the crime is secondhand, pieced together from a few witnesses, some of whom might have harbored a grudge. The chief suspects were singled out because of racial profiling but were never questioned. No one was ever prosecuted.

It was on Sept. 6, 1609 — 400 years ago Sunday — when this, the first recorded murder in what became metropolitan New York, was committed. Colman was killed only four days after the first Dutch and English sailors arrived.

“There’s a reason it’s still a cold case,” said Detective Michael J. Palladino, president of the city detectives’ union, mulling the scant evidence that remains today.

Some 300 people have been murdered in the city so far in 2009. Typically, half the homicides are solved in the first year and 20 percent the year after. Relatively few are solved decades after they occur, although some are. So it’s about time modern police brains were brought to bear on the murder of John Colman. Some detectives gamely agreed to apply their skills to the case during interviews.

In addition to Detective Palladino, they were Joseph A. Pollini, who commanded the Police Department’s cold case homicide squad and now teaches at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, and William McNeely, a Manhattan South homicide detective. A couple of historians were consulted to add context.

The facts as they are known (maybe):

John Colman’s murder inspired a mural in the Hudson County, N.J., courthouse in Jersey City.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: 16090906; godsgravesglyphs; johncolman; johnjaycollege; josephapollini; manhattansouth; michaeljpalladino; murder; mystery; newyork; williammcneely
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1 posted on 09/06/2009 2:01:05 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: BGHater

Good use of tax dollars and resources.


2 posted on 09/06/2009 2:06:05 PM PDT by TheZMan ("I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve.")
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To: BGHater

Round up the usual suspects.


3 posted on 09/06/2009 2:06:36 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: TheZMan

Drive-by shooting? Drug dispute?


4 posted on 09/06/2009 2:10:37 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: BGHater

Sounds more like a casualty of war, rather than murder.

Oops, forgot. No difference there to the NYT.


5 posted on 09/06/2009 2:18:31 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Early Amish hate crime. They were the “progressives” in 1609.


6 posted on 09/06/2009 2:19:41 PM PDT by AUH2O Repub (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: SunkenCiv; Pharmboy

Ping


7 posted on 09/06/2009 2:20:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Riley

Dig up the usual suspects.


8 posted on 09/06/2009 2:23:20 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: BGHater
"His body was hastily buried and has never been found."

The author has apparently been following his masters' Malthusian directions. ...too much raw meat and cookie dough, perhaps? ...maybe a few hits of this and that?


9 posted on 09/06/2009 2:24:15 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote)
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To: BGHater

Bush’s Fault©


10 posted on 09/06/2009 2:26:00 PM PDT by decal (The Key To Flexibility is Indecision)
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To: BGHater

I can solve this murder right now:

“Colman was killed only four days after the first Dutch and English sailors arrived.”

It was the Dutch and English sailors.


11 posted on 09/06/2009 3:15:45 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: BGHater

What are they going to do with the killer once found? Throw his bones in the slammer?


12 posted on 09/06/2009 3:47:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("It (Gov't) can't make you happier, healthier, wealthier, and wise" - Sarah Palin 07/26)
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What are they going to do with the killer once found? Throw his bones in the slammer?

For life, even!!

the infowarrior

13 posted on 09/06/2009 4:36:29 PM PDT by infowarrior
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14 posted on 09/06/2009 6:21:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Someone in English history (Cromwell?) was dug up and the corpse put on trial. I think the corpse was flogged. (Dim memories of the more bizarre parts of history.)


15 posted on 09/06/2009 7:53:45 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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It was John Wycliffe.

“John Wycliffe (mid-1320s – 31 December 1384) was an English theologian, lay preacher,[1] translator and reformist. Wycliffe was an early dissident in the Roman Catholic Church during the 14th century. His followers are known as Lollards, an Evangelical movement which preached a New Testament Gospel.[1] He is considered the founder of the Lollard movement,[1] a precursor to the Protestant Reformation (for this reason, he is sometimes called “The Morning Star of the Reformation”). He was one of the earliest opponents of papal authority influencing secular power.[2]

Wycliffe was also an early advocate for translation of the Bible in the common tongue. He completed his translation directly from the Vulgate into vernacular English in the year 1382, now known as the Wycliffe Bible[3]. It is believed that he personally translated the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John; and it is possible he translated the entire New Testament”

“The Council of Constance declared Wycliffe (on 4 May 1415) a stiff-necked heretic and under the ban of the Church. It was decreed that his books be burned and his remains be exhumed. The exhumation was carried out in 1428 when, at the command of Pope Martin V, his remains were dug up, burned, and the ashes cast into the River Swift, which flows through Lutterworth. “
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wycliffe#Last_days


16 posted on 09/06/2009 10:04:47 PM PDT by happygrl (Hope and Change or Rope and Chains?)
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To: SunkenCiv

They’ll have to track down those descendants who are guilty of being related to the killer(s) and throw them in the slammer. Murder reparations.


17 posted on 09/07/2009 3:56:19 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: happygrl

“The Morning Star” = “The Angel of Light” = Lucifer


18 posted on 09/07/2009 3:57:57 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: BGHater

The article says 70 % of murders are solved in 2 years, That leaves 30% unsolved.


19 posted on 09/07/2009 4:29:57 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . fasl el-khital)
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To: TheOldLady

;’) Don’t give the Obama administration any ideas. They are on the lookout for ideas, because they haven’t had any yet.


20 posted on 09/07/2009 9:06:20 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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