Posted on 08/16/2009 10:55:50 AM PDT by stelka
Well, this is NOT a perpetual motion machine, but something interesting.. from the article: ... A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free electrical energy... A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power it... SkyNews vid:
http://www.youtube.com/v/w8TJlQlPi4s
OMG LOL.
That was excellent made me laugh! Glad to see others have a sense of humor about some of this stuff posted here.
This shows why there can never be residual "magnetism" left over for use in a free energy system. It states that the magnetic field B has divergence equal to zero. It is equivalent to the statement that magnetic monopoles do not exist. In other words, all magnetism comes in a dipole moment.
There is simply no way to destabilize the magnetic field without a monopole.
The thing that makes me laugh is that these hucksters can sell something so easily disproven to a main stream media outlet without any apparent scrutiny. Yet when someone asks to see Obama to produce his long form birth certificate to help verify the circumstances surrounding his birth they are derided and called idiots, racists or worse.
I will give a crude analogy: burning coal produces heat that turns water into pressurized steam that turns a turbine connected to a giant alternator that converts this energy into alternating electrical current that can be transmitted using the power grid and transformers. The electrical current transports the power like the chain on a motorcycle transmits the power produced by the engine to the rear wheel. When electrical current reaches your home and is channeled through an electrical device designed to use it back to a grounding wire it completes a circuit. Believe it or not this circuit is analogous to the chain on the motorcycle. When the circuit is broken no power is transmitted.
An electrical generator converts mechanical power into electrical power. The alternating current generator or alternator does not produce power just as the chain on a motorcycle does not produce the power used to propel a motorcycle. The power comes from another source, some type of engine that uses fuel.
This reminds me of a story told to me by an old German lady. Her home was ransacked by Russian soldiers. The soldiers stole all of the lights from the house and were infuriated when they could not get them to work outside of her home, so they smashed them all. This video illustrates that to most people including news anchor people that electrical power is still incomprehensible magic produced by magical devices that don’t necessarily need any type of fuel. It is no wonder that snake oil selling leftists figure they can still sell anthropogenic global warming even ten years after the best data demonstrates clearly that a cyclic global cooling trend has started.
Where's the magnetism in static shocks? Where's the magnetism in a lightning bolt?
All you need is a potential.
I think “allmost” just wants to argue.
Nothing to argue about. Magnetic fields are defined in electric terms. Find one aspect of magnetism that isn’t. Unless you propose some brand new theoretical construct, the very definition of magnetism is electric in nature.
What? Are you trying to say the magnetic fields of the earth are actually electricity? Please.
A magnet cannot generate electricity without some motion of a conductor through the fields of flux. How does a battery create electricity? There's no magnetism there?
Interesting - never was partial to snake oil myself - tastes bitter. But on the other hand perhaps we could set up some sort of snake oil factory - powered by magnetic cats of course - and sell the product wholesale to the leftists?
Who do I call to invest?
Wow. There is no such thing as non magnetic electricity. It is electromagnetic energy. Electricity cannot exist without a magnetic field. A magnetic field cannot exist without electricity. These are fundamental concepts. The flow of electrons through your car battery is defined as both. You seem to want to just want to argue. Look it up.
I didn’t say it was the movement of the wire but the change in the magnetic field, or rather the change in magnetic flux, that creates the current. And yes I was being uber fundamental as you say because indeed it is the changing electric field by the perpindicular force of the magnetic field that is inducing the current.
this is NOT a perpetual motion machine, but something interesting.. from the article: ... A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion....but even though it induces perpetual motion, see, it's NOT a perpetual motion MACHINE. ;')
Thanks for pinging me kalee! Am I IBTZ?
Woo Hoo!
"Gonna Zot, Gonna Zot, All Around the Clock Tonight!"
Actually there is only one set of windings producing a magnetic field. The track consists of a series of coils which is energized by three phased electric current (much like a three phase induction motor except they are laid out flat along the track rather then in a cylinder for a rotary motor). The car has aluminum fins just above the coils. When the coils are energized they induce an electric eddy current in the fin which also generates a magnetic field that interacts with the moving field in the track. The resultant forces both levitate the car out of contact with the track and propel the car along the track following the poly-phase magnetic wave (something like a surfer riding a wave in the ocean).
The car needs no built in magnets nor electric coils, all power is supplied by the track, further, only the coils directly under the car need be energized to propel the device. The frequency at which the coils energized determines the speed of the car and by reversing the phase shift sequence you can produce smooth braking without mechanical contact.
Regards,
GtG
PS The device pictured in the Australian video clip has been around for at least five years, if anyone had/has figured out how to produce a mechanical device with a coefficient of performance greater then 1 we would have heard about it by now. Contrary to popular myth, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
I still want my free mortgage and gas!!!
Snake oil, exactly. Probably get oil from a snake more easily than free energy from a “non-perpetual motion” perpetual motion machine.
I don’t know why I bothered to get an engineering degree 24 years ago (1985, The University of Texas at Austin, BSME), when all it takes is a moron with an internet connection who throws out terminology that they think sounds scientific. The best part is those that vehemently argue the same (incorrect) point over and over, as if repeating the same nonsense will somehow make them look less ignorant. There’s no sense arguing with them, because it’s taking punches at smoke. No substance.
This thread was one of the worst displays of charlatanism and unscientific gobbledygook I’ve seen in months.
Fortunately the magnetic cat hats made it bearable.
BUMP
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