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Obama's certificate number is later than the Nordyke twins even though he born a day earlier.
Vanity | 7/28/09 | Vanity

Posted on 07/28/2009 2:01:51 PM PDT by Smokeyblue

DinkyJackson wrote on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302882/posts?q=1&;page=101

Obama’s (finally published) birth certificate serial number is 151 1961 - 010641, he was born on 8-4-1961, and the certificate was filed by the Registrar on 8-8-1961 ( http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html )

Today, the Honolulu advertiser publishes a story, and at the bottom includes a set of long-form BC’s from a woman who had twins at Kapiolani on 8-5-1961 who went to school with Obama.

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280345/Hawaii+officials+confirm+Obama%E2%80%99s+original+birth+certificate+still+exists

These twins were born the day AFTER Obama AT KAPIOLANI. And their certificate numbers are LOWER than his (10637 and 10638). They were born 8-5-1961, the certificates were signed by mom 8-7-1961, signed by the MD 8-11-1961, and signed by the Registrar 8-11-1961.

THIS MEANS HE DEFINITELY WAS NOT BORN AT KAPIOLANI, because his BC number (born on Aug 4th and filed with Registrar Aug 8th) should have a lower number than the twins (Born Aug 5th at Kapiolani and filed with Registrar Aug 11th)


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To: Marmolade; Ann Archy; cynwoody

I guess my response goes along with this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2302965/posts
but based on the comment from the article referenced in this posting. Links the 2 together.


121 posted on 07/28/2009 4:14:12 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: cynwoody
has a direct and tangible interest

Why do not the American people have a direct and tangible interest?

122 posted on 07/28/2009 4:14:57 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: panthermom

I agree that those look like microfilm copies of authentic birth certificates. Now why is there not a microfilm copy of Barry’s birth certificate available for us all to see? EMWTK


123 posted on 07/28/2009 4:17:56 PM PDT by Aroostook25
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To: cynwoody

I guess we need to know what is meant by ‘sealed’. The Hawaiian law allows for the certificates to be seen or accessed under certain conditions, but as I understand it, a certificate which has been sealed due to adoption, cannot be accessed by that person.


124 posted on 07/28/2009 4:19:59 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: F15Eagle
The birth certificate that I have now doesn't even have a file number assigned to it.


125 posted on 07/28/2009 4:20:15 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Aroostook25
You are right. Someone needs to go down to the Recorder's Office and find out.

Clause 5: Qualifications for office No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

126 posted on 07/28/2009 4:20:18 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
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To: Smokeyblue

interesting....hmmmm


127 posted on 07/28/2009 4:21:42 PM PDT by chevydude26
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To: BP2

Did you see post #53? ... The ‘1961’ listing?


128 posted on 07/28/2009 4:23:15 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Marmolade
I guess we need to know what is meant by ‘sealed’. The Hawaiian law allows for the certificates to be seen or accessed under certain conditions, but as I understand it, a certificate which has been sealed due to adoption, cannot be accessed by that person.

That form of sealing is a routine matter ordered by a judge processing an adoption, not a governor in the midst of a presidential election.

Of course, if Zero had been adopted by Lolo Soetoro, then his name would be Soetoro, not Obama, presumably, and the short form he has given out would have to be a forgery, as would the form he presented to get his passport, etc. And Fukino, Okubo, and Lingle would be looking like very silly women for appearing to confirm the forgery. But it wouldn't affect his eligibility.

130 posted on 07/28/2009 4:26:30 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: BP2

8/4/61 was a Saturday. Maybe the hospital submitted all the births over the weekend the following week either in alphabetical order or in the order they were in the pile, not by time.


131 posted on 07/28/2009 4:28:29 PM PDT by muskah
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To: BP2; Polarik; pissant; LucyT; Calpernia; stockpirate; Chief Engineer; ckilmer; cripplecreek; ...
From where did you get O's BC #? FactCheck.com? Their reliability on anything is highly questionable, as they are an arm of Obama's political machine. So I wouldn't make any conclusions based upon their data.

There is yet another problem with your conclusion. You are assuming that birth certificates were given numbers in serial order, depending on the time of birth. We don't know if that was the strict rule at the time.

BTW, the reappearance of the elderly Mrs. Nordyke in the Advertiser at this time, displaying her daughters' birth certificates, could well have been planned by the Obama team. Though I believe those Nordyke BCs are authentic, they don't prove a darn thing as to where (or when) Obama was born. Mrs. Nordyke could be telling the Advertiser what she was told to say: that she remembers seeing Stanley Ann in the maternity ward at the time, when in fact she doesn't.

One more point: if the Dept. of Health reported all births to the newspapers at the time, why weren't the Nordyke twins' birth announcements in the same issue of the Advertiser as the Obama birth announcement?

132 posted on 07/28/2009 4:30:12 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: BP2; Polarik; pissant; LucyT; Calpernia; stockpirate; Chief Engineer; ckilmer; cripplecreek; ...
From where did you get O's BC #? FactCheck.com? Their reliability on anything is highly questionable, as they are an arm of Obama's political machine. So I wouldn't make any conclusions based upon their data.

There is yet another problem with your conclusion. You are assuming that birth certificates were given numbers in serial order, depending on the time of birth. We don't know if that was the strict rule at the time.

BTW, the reappearance of the elderly Mrs. Nordyke in the Advertiser at this time, displaying her daughters' birth certificates, could well have been planned by the Obama team. Though I believe those Nordyke BCs are authentic, they don't prove a darn thing as to where (or when) Obama was born. Mrs. Nordyke could be telling the Advertiser what she was told to say: that she remembers seeing Stanley Ann in the maternity ward at the time, when in fact she doesn't.

One more point: if the Dept. of Health reported all births to the newspapers at the time, why weren't the Nordyke twins' birth announcements in the same issue of the Advertiser as the Obama birth announcement?

133 posted on 07/28/2009 4:31:20 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: MHGinTN
"Nordyke was in labor at Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital the same time as Obama's late mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, Nordyke said. She gave birth to twins the day after Obama was born, Nordyke said, and her daughters later attended Punahou School with Obama/"

This could be the reason for the hospital story switch from Queens to Kapiolani to match that moonbat Buffalo women's story that can out in January. The women who had that Napkin to remind her of Obama's birth and I recall she brought up the Nordyke twins.

134 posted on 07/28/2009 4:34:52 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: MHGinTN

Did you see post #53? ... The ‘1961’ listing?

Yes, see my response on post #93.

The year group on the computer-generated abstract "Certification of Life Birth" has 4 digits (Y2K compliant) for the year the person was born; the "Certificate of Live Birth" (long form) has 2 digits for the year.

That's what Obama is hiding -- his "original" birth certificate.

135 posted on 07/28/2009 4:35:04 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: cynwoody
Of course, if Zero had been adopted by Lolo Soetoro, then his name would be Soetoro, not Obama, presumably, and the short form he has given out would have to be a forgery, as would the form he presented to get his passport, etc. And Fukino, Okubo, and Lingle would be looking like very silly women for appearing to confirm the forgery. But it wouldn't affect his eligibility.

To change his name from adoption on his BC Hawaii would have to know about it.his wife Michele said he was adopted..why no media questions on that? . I do believe Obama on his return to Hawaii could change his name back to his original without a court name change by usage...but I'm not positive...

136 posted on 07/28/2009 4:52:41 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: justiceseeker93
why weren't the Nordyke twins' birth announcements in the same issue of the Advertiser as the Obama birth announcement?

The Nordyke twins SHOULD be in the SAME newspapers if, as the Obots say, the state of Hawaii automatically reported births in 1961 to the local papers -- instead of parents paying for the vanity ad to report the birth -- regardless of where those parents gave birth ...


Hmmmm ... no Nordyke listed in either newspaper ...


137 posted on 07/28/2009 4:55:22 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Smokeyblue

Bump this up....there is no LOGICAL REASON why this should be so...unless he wasn’t born where everyone NOW says he was born.


138 posted on 07/28/2009 4:55:43 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Smokeyblue

The day my sister was born there were 2 other girls born that day, and after some years, I found who both on them were, and was friends with both of them.

I think a half/black baby would stand out even in Hawaii.


139 posted on 07/28/2009 4:55:58 PM PDT by amigatec (The only change you will see in the next four years will be what's in your pocket.)
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To: justiceseeker93

Last year the Hawaii Free Press ran a story about a group in Hawaii who were investigating Barack Obama’s birth in their state.

Since the islands’s hospitals wouldn’t provide any information, they networked through relatives, friends and sypathetic contacts, all towards one end: in which hospital was Brarack H. Obama born?

What they discovered in the files was jaw dropping. Nothing.

Mrs. Barack Obama Sr. (Stanley Anne D. Obama) was never, in all of 1961, a patient in any hospital on the Hawaiian Islands.


140 posted on 07/28/2009 5:02:19 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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