Posted on 06/16/2009 3:36:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
"Since Europeans came to the Americas, they have often been wrong about the Native inhabitants and Western science has not been immune to this problem," said one Denver scientist May 29. A perhaps-controversial 33,000 years ago, "and probably long before that," people lived here, according to Steven R. Holen, curator of archaeology in the Denver Museum of Nature and Science's Department of Anthropology. "Several scientists, me included, are producing evidence of a much older Native American occupation of the continent," he said, adding that, as has happened in the past, "the scientific establishment has underestimated the time depth of the Native American occupation of the Americas." ...Holen studies the patterns of breakage in mammoth bones, extrapolating and recreating the kind of instrument and force required to create such fractures and hypothesizing possible implements that could be made from the shattered remains. "The only way these could be broken in the past as we see it is by humans using hammerstones." Although stone tools have not yet been found with the bones, "You don't have to have stone tools -- you have to have evidence of human technology... Scientists from several major universities, especially in western states like Nevada, Wyoming, Arizona and Alaska still 'know' that Native Americans have not been in North America before approximately 14,000 years ago, or just prior to Clovis culture. But no one has demonstrated there is a natural way the bones could be broken in these patterns. No one has yet disproved my findings." ...Pushing the clock back further still, Holen said he is working on a site that is "probably much older"...
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[Photo courtesy Denver Museum of Nature and Science] A mammoth femur from Nebraska that is believed to have been broken by a hammerstone blow to mid-shaft. Steven R. Holen, curator of archaeology at the Denver Museum of Nature and Science, said it is possible to tell that the bone was broken while it was still fresh because of the spiral breakage pattern.
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Were those Native Americans killed by and robbed of their land by the ones who came over the Ice Age-era land bridge that existed between Alaska and Russkieland? :)
It is the oldest Algonkin (Algonquin) verbal history story.
And I always enjoy referring readers of these posts to David Macaulay's Motel of the Mysteries, in which future archaeologists excavate a 20th century motel and interpret what they find there. The bathroom was the inner sanctum of a religious structure and the toilet seat was a ceremonial chest-piece.
In all probabilities yes.
It debunks the Bering Strait theory, which we were all taught in school.
GIGO.
Every time I see an documentary on some ancient civilization and they are making some outlandishness claim based on a piece of pottery or an inscription that probably says something to the effect of "Kilroy was Here", I always wonder just how in the heck do they really know what happened here.
What does GIGO mean?
One of my favorites in the museums is “Religious object of unknown significance.” I always wonder, how do they know. I think I’ll go communicate with the Gods for a while.
:’) The folks who were here could have still arrived from that direction, and may still have come by land. The problem is Clovis-First-and-Only, which has no basis in fact, and is merely a bias.
Just there were people here, doesn't mean they were ancestors of American Indians. The ancestors of today's Indians may have wiped out or assimilated older populations, the way the Europeans did. But of course, if that were true it wouldn't be PC, and it might take away their endless list of grievances in search of various reparations.
Already throughout the 1960s, Cruxent's reports on his finds at Muaco, the Pedregal Valley and Taima-taima had stirred controversy. The conventional wisdom, especially among North American archaeologists, was that the first South Americans were the result of a very rapid migration from North America, following big game, and a tool tradition highlighted by the use of a projectile point (spear) technology. In North America, the accepted earliest evidence was tied to the Clovis fluted projectile point technology, dated to no earlier than 11,000 years B.P. It was then argued that the earliest migrants to colonize South America would have a Clovis-derived tool technology and that it would have to post-date 11,000 B.P. The initial radiocarbon dates obtained from Taima-taima (and Muaco), however, were several millennia earlier than any accepted dates from Clovis sites in North America...
An El Jobo projectile point rests next to the tibia of an Haplomastodon at Taima-taima.
This statement is in itself is loaded with a wrong preconception... the Clovis point itself has open the possibility that the first (Native?) inhabitants of the Americas might of been "Europeans"
I can go down to the crick and get you more of those than you’d ever want.....:)
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