Obama's Agents At FactCheck.org Obama's Agents At FactCheck.org

THE OBAMA FILE ^ | 2/17/09 | Beckwith

[Fred Nerks]

I was recently engaged in an exchange of emails with my buddy Fred Nerks from Oz that prompted me to revisit FactCheck.org, where the Annenberg-funded website has published a web page entitled, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate."

The information on this page is 100% bovine excrement.

FactCheck.org's Summary

1. "In June, the Obama campaign released a digitally scanned image of his birth certificate..."

This statement is false -- the campaign released a "Certification of Live Birth." The document presented on this website is not now and never has been a birth certificate, and FactCheck.org knows it. So why did they publish this lie?

2. "FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate."

This statement is also a lie -- the only people that have seen, touched, and examined Obama's birth certificate is Chiyome Leinaala Fuikino M.D., the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, and the Registrar of Vital Statistics.

Fuikino wrote, "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record."

So your conclusion, "We conclude that..." is false, because your conclusions are based on a false premise -- that you have seen Obama's birth certificate -- you haven't, because the State of Hawaii won't release it. What do you think is going on in the 48 lawsuits against Obama. These suits are all trying to get to Obama's birth certificate and 48 times, judges have said, "I can't go for that, ohh, no, I can't go for that."

3. "Update, Nov. 1: The director of Hawaii’s Department of Health confirmed Oct. 31 that Obama was born in Honolulu."

Complete fabrication and bold-faced lie -- what Fuikino wrote was, "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

Nowhere in that statement does it say Obama was born in Honolulu, and here is the complete statement: -- check it out yourself.

And, nowhere does FactCheck.org identify the militantly partisan website that released the "Certification of Live Birth" -- The Daily Kos -- one of the wackiest websites extant. This FACT alone makes this entire scenario suspicious, if not patently ridiculous.

FactCheck.org's Analysis

1. FactCheck.org's own analysis confirms what I wrote above, under Summary.

2. FactCheck.org presents a photo of a "Certification of Live Birth," captioned, "The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller."

That's a lie, as well -- the document in this photo is a "Certification of Live Birth" (getting tiresome, isn't it) -- not a birth certificate. They are different documents, and the folks at this mendacious organization know the difference -- Joseph Goebbels would be proud of FactCheck.org's big lie.

FactCheck.org presents a photo image of the document further down the page, under Analysis -- That document is not a "birth certificate." It is a "Certification of Live Birth," again, FactCheck.org knowingly misrepresents the document as something it is not, and it's not even the document that was released.

Here is the document that was released to The Daily Kos. The original document released had its Certificate Number blacked out -- and if one looks at the document, it says at the bottom, "ANY ALTERATIONS INVALIDATE THIS CERTIFICATE" -- even if the document were genuine -- it isn't VALID.

3. FactCheck.org published several other images defending its false presentation on this page.

4. In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.

A birth announcement could have been easily phoned in to the newspaper from anywhere in the world. This "fact" is inconclusive, unless you know who provided the newspaper with the announcement, the means they used, and where they were physically located at the time.

FactCheck.org's Anal-ists

FactCheck.org identifies their anal-ists as Jess Henig and Joe Miller. OK, that's fine, but who and what are Jess Henig and Joe Miller? Are they qualified to make an analysis of ANY document, or are they just a couple of guys hanging around FactCheck.org's office, or are they political operators? What are their bona fides? FactCheck.org doesn't say. Wonder why?

FactCheck does say their, "representatives got a chance to spend some time with the birth certificate, and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago." In my mind, that clearly shows they were working with and for the Obama Campaign and that Obama and his people are involved in this lie.

Lie? Hell, this is a conspiracy and FactCheck.org boldly admits their part in it.

I prefer to give credence to Dr. Ron Polarik, who holds a Ph.D. in Instructional Media and specializes in computer graphics with over 20 years experience with computers, printers and typewriters, who provides conclusive and irrefutable evidence that the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) image created and distributed by Obama's campaign to the Daily Kos, Annenberg's Factcheck, and the St. Petersburg Times, and Politifact, is, unquestionably, a false identification document. Here, is his final report.

A second expert forensic document examiner Ms. Sandra Ramsey Lines has filed an affidavit associated with one of the lawsuits, stating the following:

1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an address at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.

2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from "Ron Polarik." After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the "Daily Kos," the Obama Campaign, "Factcheck.org" and others cannot be relied upon as genuine.

My Comments

Since the title of the FactCheck.org web page is, "The truth about Obama's birth certificate," everything on the page is a bold-faced lie, because FactCheck.org has never, ever seen Obama's birth certificate and every image and reference is to a Certification of Live Birth.

Hawaii is notorious for its issuance of COLB's. Click here to see a large copy of a beautifully printed Certificate of Hawaiian Birth (If you click it, it will get bigger or smaller). It belongs to Sun Yat-Sen, the Father of Modern China, who was born in China.

This Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, dated March 14, 1904, was issued after Dr. Sun signed a raggedy type-written statement affirming that he was born in Hawaii on Nov. 24, 1870. Sun Yat-sen was born on November 12, 1866, to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county , Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau), not Hawaii, as this document affirms.

We know Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama's sister has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth too, and she was born in Jakarta, Indonesia.

None of this is surprising, since this website is funded by the same fine people who fund Obama's buddy, the unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers. They represent themselves as unbiased and non-partisan. That, of course, is just another lie.

This "birth certificate" controversy is not nearly as important as the fact that Obama is not a "natural born citizen."

"To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just so long as it is needed..."

George Orwell, "Nineteen Eighty-Four"

[pissant]

911 truther and all around nut job.

[STARWISE]

Aaah so. Thanks.

[STARWISE]

I SO agree.

[WestCoastGal]

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[toldyou]

HA! Our president doesn’t even qualify!

[pickyourpoison]

I remember years ago the FCC ordered minister Carl McIntire off the air. He bought a bought a big boat and went a few miles off the Jersey coast and kept on broadcasting.

I liked to listen to him. He would tell his listeners what the Godless rascals in D.C. were up to.

[penelopesire]

Dittos on your post. It is going to take all of us freedom loving people working together to get our government out of the hands of the marxists.

[penelopesire]

Thanks for the update. Like I said before, I don’t listen to much internet radio, but am so glad that there are folks out there talking about important issues in this country. Hope Ed and Mommae can work their spat out and get back to the business of hounding Obama and the dems!

[Centurion2000]

bump

[ColdDecember]

I am afraid your report regarding Plains Radio is not quite accurate. First, it was neither an injunction nor was it a court order. It was rather a letter from Fox News Network. The person who had signed the letter had asked Plains Radio to call her. Second, Plains radio had its Monday night broadcast as scheduled. Furthermore, Plains Radio plans to call Fox News Network tomorrow to make sure the letter is not a hoax

[LucyT]

Thank you; do you have a source for your information? FreeRepublic strives for accuracy, and everyone needs to be notified of any errors.

[LucyT]

This just in:

“Is Ed Hale pulling our leg with this injunction business?”

“It was on the Plains Radio website message forum yesterday and it was Ed Hale who posted that there was in injunction.

“I just checked now, and what I sent to you yesterday about the injunction is gone. Do you suppose Ed Hale did that in order to garner or fire up his listeners????

“Anyway, this is on his website right now.

http://pub29.bravenet.com/forum/2442810129/show/981905

“Phil Berg and Momma E

“Phil Berg and Momma E are the one who are causing all the problem for Plains Radio.

“It appears that they want Plains Radio off of the air so that they will have a free hand to collect more money.

“It all comes to one point, Phil Berg wants more money and Momma E is helping him.

“Plains Radio has reported many times that Berg is filing all these lawsuit for money only. Plains Radio has questioned on many occasion why Berg is filing these lawsuit without any proof to back up his claims.

“Berg and Momma E are working together on this. Berg sent Plains Radio a letter demanding a retraction of statements made by Ed Hale. Berg is Momma E attorney. Only one problem with that, Berg is not licensed in the State of Oklahoma, and is practicing law in Oklahoma without a license. This is a felony and someone needs to file a complaint against Berg for this.

“This was nothing more than a attempt to discredit Plains Radio and get them off of the air. I understand that Hale is going to file a lawsuit against Evelyn Adams, aka Momma E shortly to clear all this up.

“According to the documents on Plains Radio website, the 1964 Obama divorce decree post at both Plains Radio web site and at Momma E’s, Country First, bavehost site are the same.

“It would appear that Momma E did in fact obtain these document from Plains Radio without their consent. So stay tuned and see what other problems these two will cause Plains Radio.”

[LucyT]

Thank you, anonymous, for an update to set the record straight.

STARWISE, would you please ping your list, too, don’t want any misinformation on FreeRepublic.

#72:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2187787/posts?page=72#72

[IrishPennant]

Thanks for the ping LucyT...not more more time over the past few weeks to do more then read, shake my head and pray!!!

[STARWISE]

~~PING to #72, for some clarity.

[pissant]

Ed Hale is a fruitloop

[LucyT]

“It would appear that Momma E did in fact obtain these document from Plains Radio without their consent."

Wouldn't want to listen to a thief, either.

[MHGinTN]

Some of that 4.1 billion for ACORN and assoc. that is scuzzed up in the Porkulus Bill will be used by the ACORN affiliates to bring lawsuits of an harrassment nature. Count on it, and it works all too well as the suits aimed at banking to force below prime lending have shown. And of course, Barry was an attorney in at least one of thsoe harrassment suits which worked, so he knows this will work to squelch opposition in grand Alinskyesque style, eventually.

[April Lexington]

At some point in time, the elitist Left must come to understand the terrifying anger of the masses. We are not interested in having these communists destroy or culture, life styles and nation to advance a globalist, progressive world order.

[FourtySeven]

The bad thing about this is that it taints the entire effort to expose Obama. Why, oh why, can’t people stop fighting amongst themselves and work together? I guess this is always what happens when people let their egos get in the way of their work. It also seems as if there is a great deal of money involved in all of this, so people getting angry with each other doesn’t surprise me at all...

Doesn't surprise me either. Given all the factors you mentioned, something like this was bound to happen. Same thing happened over at DU with fans of/critics of Bev Harris.

Given a group of people that take honest questions as a sign of "attack" (the ego portion you mentioned) and throw into that some serious pots of money that start to accumulate, suspicions grow like weeds in such an environment. It's only a matter of time before the powder keg explodes.

I can't say I'm really sad, but I can say I'm a bit disappointed. After finally catching up on the issue (by phrasing my questions about the issue as delicately and infrequently as possible, so I wouldn't be labeled an "Obot" or whatever, which would have hindered further investigation) I have come to see there might be something to the story. Specifically the ability at the time for Ms Dunham to have filed one of those "Hawaiian births" with some double talk and fake testimonials. That, combined with some questionable images leaves an open ended question. A question that requires more research and time for such research than quite frankly I have time for; I wouldn't even know where to start to investigate whether or not a "Certificate of Hawaiian birth" could ever be accepted as the same thing as a "Certification of Live Birth" or a "Certificate of Live Birth" or anything of the sort. It seemed to be more a ceremonial certificate than anything actually formal; at least as far as establishing one's actual place of birth. Not to mention of course, I'm not even remotely qualified to analyze images in the way Polarik apparently did, so how could I ever verify his conclusions' veracity?

But as you pointed out, at this point it seems egos and greed has gotten in the way (if not some outright paranoia thrown in the mix) and the answer will never really be known. I suppose I could take comfort in the fact that it would have been difficult at the time to fly all the way to Kenya from HI, especially for someone 8-9 months pregnant. That, and also the fact that I don't *know*, for a *fact* that a "Certificate of Hawaiian birth" could ever be transformed into some kind of Birth Certificate, or Certification or whatever (as I said above). I can draw some comfort in that ignorance, and my ignorance of image forgery. I suppose we all have to at this point.

I was wondering why there hadn't been too many "birther" threads lately; seems like this is one of the main reasons. Oh well, on the balance, maybe it's a good thing. At least now we can draw reasonable conclusions about who's in it for the money and fame and who's in it for the actual issue.

Seems to be few and far between for the latter reason.