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DARWIN IS DEAD (Leave Him in the Grave)
EducationNews.Org ^ | 01/26/2009 | Karl Priest

Posted on 01/26/2009 7:22:57 AM PST by Sopater

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To: tpanther

Peer review from the SCIENTIFIC perspective from actual scientists.....the Theory will allow....MUST allow.

....but I DO love it every time a creaationist tries to weave a tangled web.


21 posted on 01/26/2009 8:19:11 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (1/27th Infantry Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: tpanther

In case you missed it, it’s a scientific theory. Use the scientific method to counter the theory, not a mathematical calculation of possible probabilities.


22 posted on 01/26/2009 8:21:03 AM PST by ElectricStrawberry (1/27th Infantry Wolfhounds...cut in half during the Clinton years.)
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To: Sopater
"In my state, West VirginiaUniversity has already placed a newspaper add listing events WVU will use to honor Darwin.Revealing consummate hypocrisy is the fact that WVU evolutionist professors are exposed as Debate Dodgers at http://www.lifescienceprize.org/."

Funny. A "Debate Dodger" is anyone who refuses to participate in his silly little contest. He goes on to conclude that this is proof that the ToE is dead. I found this statement rather telling:

A remaining next step is litigation to replace the evolution scourge from the public schools with the secular truth of devolution, the exact opposite and excluder of evolution.
23 posted on 01/26/2009 8:30:57 AM PST by Boxen (There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.)
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To: Boxen
The only devolution going on is among the posters on this board. Creationist=Cretinous.

Cretins

24 posted on 01/26/2009 8:42:31 AM PST by don'tbedenied
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To: Sopater
A lot of oft-refuted creationist talking points all rolled into one insipid article.

Too silly and too anti-science for anything but a blanket rebuttal: Index of Creationist Claims.

25 posted on 01/26/2009 8:48:03 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Sopater

read later


26 posted on 01/26/2009 8:51:50 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Sopater
It sure doesn't take long for the atheistic darwinists to start foaming at the mouth! Truth and facts to these guys are like Light to the wicked.
27 posted on 01/26/2009 9:10:48 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: Sopater

Thank God the bible never made mention of some kind of atomic, electrical, or chemical theory. We might still be living in the dark ages..


28 posted on 01/26/2009 9:14:17 AM PST by Paradox (When the left have no one to villainize, they'll turn on each other.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

Do you have anything to contribute to article aside from your useless, baseless rhetoric?


29 posted on 01/26/2009 9:37:25 AM PST by Boxen (There is no wealth like knowledge, no poverty like ignorance.)
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To: Sopater
Also, "from trillions of observations by billions of observers for thousands of years, all life forms are fixed…" (pg. 20)In other words, evolution is the exact opposite of reality.

All life forms are not "fixed" as this article claims. That life forms change was noted decades ago. The theory of evolution was devised to explain those changes. The article is lying--hoping to fool the gullible--when it claims all life forms are fixed.

Here is an example of that change:



Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33



30 posted on 01/26/2009 10:04:04 AM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Coyoteman
All life forms are not "fixed" as this article claims. That life forms change was noted decades ago. The theory of evolution was devised to explain those changes.

Granted, life forms change and are certainly not fixed. However, there have never been any changes observed where one kind of life form became another kind. The theory of evolution wasn't devised to explain "changes", it was devised to explain observable differences. You, sir, are hoping to fool the gullible. Your example is an excellent example of how evolution is used to devise an explanation of the differences between these fossils without actually seeing any of these changes take place.
31 posted on 01/26/2009 10:34:41 AM PST by Sopater (I'm so sick of atheists shoving their religion in my face.)
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To: tacticalogic; alexander_busek

“unasssailable”?

It sounds like the cult is surrounded by a moat, and the drawbridge only gets lowered to the like-minded.


32 posted on 01/26/2009 10:44:31 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: Sopater
GRADE LEVEL: 7-8th Grade Mathematics

No reason for a serious reply so


33 posted on 01/26/2009 10:49:02 AM PST by BJClinton
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To: Boxen
I’m guessing you polled a good number of mathematicians to obtain this conclusion?

They probably polled Bill Debmski.

34 posted on 01/26/2009 10:52:13 AM PST by js1138
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To: qam1

Yes.


35 posted on 01/26/2009 10:54:11 AM PST by varmintman
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To: BJClinton
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36 posted on 01/26/2009 10:56:26 AM PST by EveningStar (Socialism in the USA began in 1933. In 2009 it kicked into warp drive.)
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37 posted on 01/26/2009 10:58:01 AM PST by JRios1968 (Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin' about!)
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To: EveningStar

LOLz, that’z teh funnay!


38 posted on 01/26/2009 10:59:20 AM PST by JRios1968 (Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin' about!)
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To: tpanther
It sounds like the cult is surrounded by a moat, and the drawbridge only gets lowered to the like-minded.

It does have a ring of hyperbole to it.

I think these arguments should be limited to only what can be objectively demonstrated. How about you?

39 posted on 01/26/2009 11:05:13 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY

It sure doesn’t take long for the atheistic darwinists to start foaming at the mouth! Truth and facts to these guys are like Light to the wicked.
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What you say is, of course, equally true of the other side of this equation. A scientific article discussing evolution draws the creationist/id camp mouth foamers every bit as rapidly as the other way around.

But more fundamentally, I was wondering if you could point out the specific truth and facts from the accompanying article. I saw a lot of opining, but little in the way of facts and truth. Your help is discerning them will be invaluable.


40 posted on 01/26/2009 11:17:24 AM PST by dmz
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