John Travolta, Kelly Preston and their children Jett and Ella Bleu, leave an airport in Rome.Posted on 01/04/2009 3:52:28 PM PST by GVnana
Details emerge on Jett Travolta's death
John Travolta, Kelly Preston and their children Jett and Ella Bleu, leave an airport in Rome.
John Travolta's lawyers -- who are close family friends -- reveal that Jett may have died in his father's arms Friday.
Us: How is John doing?
-snip- "John and Kelly are suffering total misery. They were so close to their son. This is hard to accept.
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Us: Have John and Kelly spent time with anyone since everyone arrived?
Ossi and McDermott: "John and Kelly have been pretty much locked away.
"We are staying here until John leaves. The autopsy should be on Monday.
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Us: It's been reported that Jett was left alone for several hours before being discovered. Can you clarify the timeline?
Ossi and McDermott: "Jett was not left alone. He had a nanny present at all times. The nanny was sleeping close to Jett's room. There was a baby monitor, a chime on the door so it was known when Jett was going in and out. He was completely supervised. The nanny found him.
Us: Is it true that Jett died in John's arms?
Ossi and McDermott: "Jett may have still been alive when John administered CPR, and then the EMT took over. Jett was pronounced dead at the hospital. I like to believe John had a chance to say goodbye. He may have died in his dad's arms. I am not certain."
Us: It's been said Jett had a history of seizures. How often did he have them?
Ossi and McDermott: "I am not confident to talk about that. I know he had a history, which of course warranted the extra attention."
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It occured to me, while I tend to kiss people on the face some of my friends will do the little lip peck. I realize on thinking on it, that those friends are those who have been actors or are the entertainment industry in some way. It’s just habit. I thought of it more when you mentioned the Kirk Douglas kiss.
It is indeed a sad story. Loosing a child is the worst kind of pain. From all Ive ever read John T was a good father who loved his son. Prayers for the family.
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I have never heard anything but good things about this family. I keep having these visions of the People Magazine interview at their California home, back when Jett was very young. John was so clearly head over heels in love with his young son, they were playing in the pool, etc. Then when Ella came along, his little girl was the light of his life. I don’t think they deserve all the cruel things being written about him by gossips who know nothing about their family. They have suffered a great loss and their lives will never be the same.
The number of people here attacking Travolta with only minimal information is very disappointing.
With that being said, my brother-in-law's brother has a wonderful, beautiful and highly intelligent daughter who upon graduation from college, accepted a very good job in Chicago about a year and a half ago. Not long after working there she too started having seizures and has since had to quit her job and return here to Michigan to her parent's house.
My brother-in-law is a PHD psychologist and is familiar with such occurances but has been unable to get any information from his brother about the daughter's condition other than "she's doing ok". He/we are very concerned because the seizures continue despite assumed medical observation.
....and no, the brother and his family are not Scientologists.
Jumping back into this thread to discuss your phony straw man about Constitutional issues. Like I said to you yesterday, you are either dumber than a stump or willfully ignorant. Either way, I think it important to shoot down your straw man.
United States Constitution, Amendment 1 of the Bill of Rights:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
(a) If President Obama (or any president) "puts into effect" Sharia law, such an attempt would be unconstitutional on its face and in at least two aspects. Any person with an IQ above room temperature can easily see why, but I'll break it down for you.
(b) Congress is our national legislative body. They make the laws. Presidents only sign or veto legislation, and once legislation becomes law, the executive branch implements it.
(c) Congress is prohibited by the Constitution from establishing any state religion.
(d) Congress is further prohibited by the Constitution from prohibiting the free exercise of religion. The Constitution does NOT say only Protestant Christian religions cannot be prohibited. It says religion, period.
(e) Although the First Amendment only refers to Congress, the U.S. Supreme Court has held that the Fourteenth Amendment makes the Free Exercise and Establishment Clauses also binding on states (Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296, 60 S. Ct. 900, 84 L. Ed. 1213 [1940], and Everson v. Board of Education, 330 U.S. 1, 67 S. Ct. 504, 91 L. Ed. 711 [1947], respectively). Since that incorporation, an extensive body of law has developed in the United States around both the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause. (Source)
(f) To determine whether an action of the federal or state government infringes upon a person's right to freedom of religion, the court must decide what qualifies as religion or religious activities for purposes of the First Amendment. The Supreme Court has interpreted religion to mean a sincere and meaningful belief that occupies in the life of its possessor a place parallel to the place held by God in the lives of other persons. The religion or religious concept need not include belief in the existence of God or a supreme being to be within the scope of the First Amendment. (Source)
(g) If President Obama takes such blatantly unconstitutional action as attempting to establish Sharia law as a de facto state religion, he would find himself massively opposed both legally and politically.
(h) In the broader, non-legal sense, "religion" is defined by the Merriam-Webster Dictionary as:
The service and worship of God or the supernatural; commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance; a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices; a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith.
As for your equally phony hand-wringing regarding when childrens' rights become more important to other in the name of freedom of religion, I'm curious what religion you practice, if any. I'm curious if you have children.
So there you are, going about your business of practicing your religious beliefs and teaching them to your kinds. How would you feel if some stranger who was adamantly opposed to your religious beliefs tried to sieze your kids because they believe the kids' rights to learn their "real" religion were being violated?
Thanks for the ping to the article, WCG. By all accounts, John Travolta has been a loving and doting father from the moment his son was born. He first married at the age of 37, and has remained married to Kelly for over 17 years. There has never been a hint of genuine scandal surrounding him. Just the opposite. By all accounts, he is a kind, generous person.
Death Cert Lists Seizure: Jett Travolta’s death certificate lists “seizure” as the cause of death. N.. http://tr.im/2zc3
Thank you for your posts.
In the 30 years since I’ve known John Travolta, there was one subject that was always taboo and that was his son, Jett.
So when I heard the news that Jett had died while on holiday in the Bahamas, I couldn’t even begin to imagine the hurt and the pain John must be feeling.
Because despite the fact that he is one of the world’s most successful film stars, John was also a father, and a man who would do anything to protect his family.
It was an instinct which became even more important to the actor after Jett was diagnosed with Kawasaki disease, an illness that would burden him with a troubling predisposition to seizures and which ultimately led to his death, last Friday morning.
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For John, the loss will be devastating. I first met the actor - or Johnny as he is to family and friends - in 1978 on the set of “Grease.”
Even though he was feted the world over, he was the most down-to-earth person on set. At the time I was an author and journalist living in Hollywood and would go on to interview John more than fifteen times over the course of the next three decades.
John has always been a private, enigmatic, character - we always got on well; he did with most people. I don’t think there’s a bad bone in his body. He was an intriguing biography subject for my book ‘Fever.’
It was during the interviews that I realised just how much fatherhood meant to John. He himself had come from a very close family.
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Weighing 8lb 12oz, Jett was named not just because of his father’s love of flying but in a combination of John’s initials and those of his sister Ellen, Jett’s godmother.
Interesting, this is what Doctor Cyril Wecht predicted last hour on Fox News.
Thank you for posting this WCG.
Thank you for laying this out so succinctly.
Cyril Wecht on Fox explaining this right now, said this means the “hematoma” was not something that could cause death, and that dying from convulsive seizures when the person doesn’t have someone there to make certain there is an open airway they can and do die. He said this is deemed a natural death.
You're welcome. :)
As you noted in one of your earlier posts, there's no reasoning with obsessive types. Still, it's always worth remembering that more people read these threads than post on them.
You're very welcome, AC. Although I have no expectation that obsessive wingnuts will get the point, sometimes it's vital that reasonable conservative people police ourselves by rebutting their rabid vitriol.
“an illness that would burden him with a troubling predisposition to seizures”
Seizures are not part of Kawasaki disease,” said Dr. Stanford Shulman, a specialist in the disease at Northwestern University’s Feinberg School of Medicine.
or
It is unlikely that Kawasaki is connected with the death if a seizure was involved, says Nathan Litman, chief of infectious disease and director of pediatrics at the Children’s Hospital at Montefiore Medical Center in The Bronx, N.Y. “You’d have to go some distance to explain a connection to Kawasaki Disease,” he says.
or
Q. Jett Travolta apparently had Kawasaki disease. Could this have caused the seizure?
A. Probably not, Wright says. Kawasaki disease is an inflammation of the blood vessels that can damage the heart but doesn’t affect the brain.
`Wendy Wright, a neurologist at Emory University in Atlanta.
Over and over and over again Doctors are debunking the Travolta theory.
Now just stop and think for a minute about that.
Of course, no one here wants to do that.
By the way, there are many reports that he named his son Jett after one of Hubbards characters. I am not familiar with their names so don’t know if that is true.
Last two posts very well said Wolfstar. I never thought about it that way and sometimes tend to try to ignore “obsessive wingnuts”.
I didn’t say Sharia law in the US. What I am talking about is this, Carolyn believes that people should be able to worship as they feel...and anyone who says anything about it ...well..glass houses yada yada yada.
So, Odinga believes in Strict Islamic law which includes Sharia law.
It would be illegal in the US...but it may not be illegal in Africa. So her argument stands no matter the country. They should be able to worship how the see fit..which includes murdering family members.
Or the people who believe in mutilating women is acceptable because that is part of their faith.
Etc.
It is not a straw man argument.
I think I will bookmark your post to use when I see YOU post about a subject.
Do you still stand by your post that the Travoltas would not use the specified drug if they don’t believe in psychiatric meds?
Because that is one of the VERY FOUNDATIONS OF SCIENTOLOGY. Mental illness does not exist and they wage a war against the APA..including your beloved Kelly Preston.
By the way, it doesn’t matter what the medical community thinks of epilepsy..as in what kind of diagnosis....what matters is what Hubbard thinks..and I have already posted him speaking in his own words on the subject.
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