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FORGET NATURAL BORN, IS HE EVEN A "CITIZEN" ?

Posted on 12/20/2008 6:31:35 PM PST by rocco55

Attorney Berg said Mr. Obama is probably an "illegal alien".

If we cannot access his passports, his birth certificate, his college records:

1. Occidental College records -- Not released 2. Columbia College records -- Not released 3. Columbia Thesis paper -- "Not available" 4. Harvard College records -- Not released 5. Selective Service Registration -- Not released 6. Medical records -- Not released 7. Illinois State Senate schedule -- Not available 8. His Illinois State Senate records -- Not available 9. Certified Copy of original Birth certificate -- Not released 10. Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth -- Not released 11. Record of baptism -- Not available

and if he has multiple names:

Barack Hussein Obama a/k/a Barry Hussein Obama a/k/a Barack Dunham a/k/a Barry Dunham a/k/a Barack Soetoro a/k/a Barry Soetoro

AND he specifically answered the "Any other names" on his bar application to obtain a law degree as "No", we can be sure MANY things about his past warrant serious and intense investigation !

I e-mailed Governor Lingle prior to Andy Martin's case requesting that she stand up for our Constitution. She IS a Republican and she DID make a comment prior to the election that Mr. Obama had limited political experience, so she may have somewhat of a clue what's going on - maybe a BIG CLUE ! Why else would Hussein send her a "Dear Linda" letter ?

Also, being from CT, I have been e-mailing Cort Wronowski for several weeks. It was TOO PITIFUL to see how the state dismissed his case and according to a radio interview, Leo said the state of CT refused to hear his case on improper grounds that did not even apply to his application as it was submitted. SURPRISE ! SURPRISE !

I also wrote Joseph Lieberman (our CT Senator) via certified mail and explained "in detail" the legitimacy of the TRUTH regarding "Factcheck", the short form cert and Obama's "sealed" history ! Is this the behavior of a cooperative official who wants to get to the TRUTH and bring about all this CHANGE ?

I informed him that, to date, there is NOT ONE hospital or medical facility in all Hawaii that has ANY record of Mr. Obama's birth and asked point blank: "Does this, in your highly qualified legal opinion, pose even the slightest 'shadow of a doubt' of this candidate's qualifications ?"

I further stated that if Mr. Obama is inaugurated on 1/20/09, he will place his hand on the Bible and vow to the American people that he will:

"PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES" ! !

I asked Mr. Lieberman:

"Could anything be more IMMEASURABLY IRONIC ????"

About 10 days back, I ran a post in FreeRepublic inquiring about OBAMA'S COLLEGE YEARBOOK. He graduated from Harvard in 1991, but is NOT in the 1991 Harvard Yearbook ! If he was the President of the Harvard Law Review, WHY NOT ?

I went on EBAY and searched EVERY possible college document, article, yearbook, alumni book, sports journal, etc. for Occidental, Princeton and Harvard Universities. I e-mailed questions to the sellers of the applicable items and asked if there was ANY mention of Barry or Barack and ALL of the replies were "NO, SORRY" !

One FreeRepublic reader commented that he went to Harvard personally and searched all College newspapers, announcements, etc., during the Obama years and was dismayed to find "several" missing pages ! He went to other years (prior and after Obama's attendance) and the papers were all intact ! Is this a coincidence ?

Obama's staff probably frequents this site daily to keep one step ahead of the competition. Having unlimited resources and a 30 million dollar campaign surplus, he can afford to have a 24/7 staff searching ANY negative feedback and once they find it, they can GOOGLE it to death with rebuttals. I told a friend who accused me of being an "ultra-right-wing die-hard Republican" about six weeks ago to search 'Obama birth certificate' on line and see for herself.

She wrote back and said the first 6 hits all said the birth cert is real and it was even verified by TWO reviewers "FactCheck" and "PolitiFact" ! Pul----lease !

I was recently summoned for Jury Duty and today I wrote the Judicial Branch of CT that I will not serve Jury duty because the state of CT turned down Cort Wronowski's case and sent in their electoral votes without verifying that Mr. Obama is a natural born citizen and he may not even be a U.S. citizen AT ALL ! Consequently, I cannot serve a judicial system that does not uphold and defend our Constitution.

Obama most likely attended college as a "foreign student" and is possibly still not a legal U.S. citizen. Why else would he go to such great lengths to "seal" ---or better stated, "CONCEAL" his past ?

The dilemma we face is, without someone kidnapping his children and holding them hostage for his birth cert, we might all DIE with that document sitting in a vault ! How sad is that ?

I entertained the idea of actually renting a Highway Billboard (I heard it's approximately $1500 for one month) with a slogan that could not be regarded as racist --possibly :

"I'D RATHER HAVE A PRESIDENT THAT IS 100% BLACK AND HONEST THAN ONE WHO IS HALF-WHITE AND WON'T SHOW HIS BIRTH CERT ! "

How else can we get the attention of ANYONE ? 99% of all Americans do not even know there is a CRISIS going on because when the MSM covers a "lawsuit dismissal", it is portrayed in a such a negative light with the usual "Factcheck" references and the "mis-information" that the state of Hawaii has "confirmed that Obama was born there", that the public has no choice but to accept it ! Of course, they think we're kooks ! It's what they're being told by NBC, CBS, FOX, Associated Press, etc.

Would it make sense to file a more basic and fundamental lawsuit (possibly against Pelosi, who had the unmitigated gall to sign off on his eligibility) to verify if Hussein is even a U. S. citizen AT ALL ? Would that obligate the defendants to produce even a passport, or this that TOO MUCH to hope for ? !

I find myself searching and praying for ANY legitimate way of exposing this Usurper...only saving grace is, if we are near the "end of the World", maybe this is part of God's plan....when ancient Israel rejected Him, He gave them what they wanted "King Saul", who proved to be unfaithful and was superseded by David...but for us, we can still fight and appeal our cause....even JESUS called Herod a "fox" !

Any attorneys out there ? Is a case against Pelosi worth pursuing ? Is the "cititzen" question, in and of itself (without the 'natural born' issue) a case less likely to be dismissed ? Can anyone else brainstorm a better option ??


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KEYWORDS: bho2008; birthcertificate; certifigate; choomgang; obama; obamagate; obamatruthfile; rinobullies
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To: cripplecreek
The Michigan house of representatives recently passed a resolution that sidesteps the electoral college if signed into law.

Is that legal?

61 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:10 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: tumblindice

Kindly address “Admission by Silence” in view of “You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.”

It looks like remaining silent can be used against you and speaking can be used against you.


62 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:20 PM PST by KrisKrinkle
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To: Kevmo

My purpose on this thread is the same as you: to voice my opinion, without consulting you first for permission.
Does that upset you? Good. We have not devolved into the Obamanation yet, so I can say or do as I please.

Lifetime appointments - so that they can be invited to the best cocktail parties and schmooze with the Left. You’ve heard their recent decisions: international law must be taken into account over the Constituion; McCain-Feingold-Thompson is now law of the land, for what that’s worth; among others.

REMF like me, eh? Better me than someone like you, just another Internet Rambo hiding behind his keyboard and my body armor. I call you coward.


63 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:21 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: Old Sarge

I do understand what you are saying and in many ways I agree. It will not happen in the way so many believe. It may not happen at all, and if it does it will not be anyone we actually like who starts it. They will be the poster children for who you don’t want your children to be. What happened at Waco and Ruby Ridge is an example. These are not admirable people and even if they, were they would not be portrayed that way in any media.

The conservative pundits will not back any group that rebels against the government no matter how illegitimate that government is. Those who do rebel are going to be utterly reviled by the majority of Americans and the ones who are willing to face that will be the first to break ranks. Fools, criminals, outcasts and losers are the ones who often start civil conflicts and revolts. So in fact some of the internet warriors you disparage may turn out to be part of those who do act. No one will really know until the day comes.

The military IMO will act against these domestic rebels who WILL commit atrocities. This is a civil war/conflict we are talking about and they are brutal and bloody affairs. The former Yugoslavia is the sort of conflict we are talking about with the rebels assigned the role of the villainous Serbs. The government will have the power, organization, internal security forces, and the military at its call. It will be a long drawn out and vicious affair and the ideals of those who begin it will likely mean much less by its end due to the course of events which will acquire a life of their own.

To avoid even the possibility of something like that every effort should be taken. I believe the court cases will ultimately fail and Obama will be sworn in regardless of what the constitution says. Too many people simply don’t care. If it is revealed afterwards that he is ineligible they will refuse to impeach him and will in all likelihood pass legislation to make their usurpation of power legal. Given that, I still think even a remote chance is better than none at all.


64 posted on 12/20/2008 8:07:49 PM PST by Sharrukin
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To: Sharrukin
I believe the court cases will ultimately fail and Obama will be sworn in regardless of what the constitution says. Too many people simply don’t care. If it is revealed afterwards that he is ineligible they will refuse to impeach him and will in all likelihood pass legislation to make their usurpation of power legal.

That, I fear, will be the final outcome.

65 posted on 12/20/2008 8:11:07 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: autumnraine; Kevmo; Old Sarge

Good for you, autumnraine! You know what they say—lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

Kevmo, an admission is admissable to prove the truth of the matter stated, with the issue being Obama’s qualification—or not—under Article Two of the US Constitution.
As a political matter, I think Rahm is advising Obama to “brazen it out” until he’s dug-in in the WH, having seen how difficult it is to blast a scoundrel out.

Sarge, don’t get your panties in a twist. I’m just saying, if you don’t want to buckle then stay the hell out of our path—don’t screw with our field of fire. Or just come right out, switch sides, go over to DU and join the Obama sheeple.


66 posted on 12/20/2008 8:11:27 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: frog in a pot

I have two ancestors (their children married) who signed the Bradford Accord....When that didn’t work they joined up. One served at Valley Forge the other at Fort Pitt....They were both young men, leaving wives, babies and crops in the fields to give me my freedom....

I’m too old and not well enough to fight, but I’ll certainly do what their love ones at home did....PRAY.


67 posted on 12/20/2008 8:11:41 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: Old Sarge

PS I figured you were a REMF


68 posted on 12/20/2008 8:14:25 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: tumblindice

And I had you pegged for a coward, with the rest of your boyfriends.


69 posted on 12/20/2008 8:16:44 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

We’re or were being manipulated. Read this (and save to your hardrive):

(FYI Axelrod’s first job was writing for a small communist local paper in Chicago.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/27/breaking-you-know-this-audiotape-is-bad-for-obama-really-bad-because-obamas-followers-got-dead-silent-all-of-a-sudden/#comment-12850


70 posted on 12/20/2008 8:18:40 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
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To: hoosiermama

“I’m too old and not well enough to fight, but I’ll certainly do what their love ones at home did....PRAY.”

Your family history sounds wonderful. I have no doubt that under the right circumstances you would offer food and a warm bed.


71 posted on 12/20/2008 8:21:10 PM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: Old Sarge
Most of the population only cares that their Gubmint check shows up in the mail every month.

The term “We the Sheeple” is more factual than any of us would want to believe. The people in this country want to be ruled, not Governed. They proved it on November 4, 2008.

72 posted on 12/20/2008 8:23:44 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner.)
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To: little jeremiah

lj, is Old Sarge on your list of CoLB Trolls?


73 posted on 12/20/2008 8:24:13 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: so_real

ping for later


74 posted on 12/20/2008 8:24:33 PM PST by so_real
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To: rocco55

Searching for Obama and yearbook on Ebay finds only a highschool yearbook. Seems there should be somebody selling a college yearbook.


75 posted on 12/20/2008 8:25:33 PM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: rocco55
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.

Obama Grandmother audio: Barack Born in Kenya http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlFc4wCpvSo

Obama Grandmother audio: Barack Born in Kenya


76 posted on 12/20/2008 8:27:47 PM PST by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Old Sarge

So that’s all ya got, just a bunch of insults. Nothing of substance to contribute to the thread, like a typical Saturday night alcoholic who probably can’t think straight even when he’s sober. So we heard your opinion, everyone has one, just like everyone has an anal orifice and you happen to be one. You get to do as you please and I get to do as I please and the lurkers get to decide who is contributing positively to the thread. I notice that so far, all of the CertifiGate trolls won’t answer the stuff about the constitution and they sidestep the issue of what their motives are. What a bunch of wusses, needing the MSM to validate whatever should be thought today.


77 posted on 12/20/2008 8:29:25 PM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: tumblindice
Good for you, autumnraine! You know what they say—lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.
They always forget the fourth option: side on the sidelines and watch people make fools of themselves.
78 posted on 12/20/2008 8:36:00 PM PST by Mr. Know It All
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To: rocco55

You know, modern pharmaceuticals have done wonders for a vast number of physiological limitations. Please think of this a PSA.


79 posted on 12/20/2008 8:42:55 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: rocco55
Barack Hussein Obama, the first Illegitimate Black Illegal Alien Anchor Baby President.

I might as well make it my tagline.

80 posted on 12/20/2008 8:51:21 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Barack Hussein Obama, the first Illegitimate Black Illegal Alien Anchor Baby President.)
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