Posted on 12/10/2008 9:25:29 AM PST by BGHater
A deluge that swept the Land of Israel more than 7,000 years ago, submerging six Neolithic villages opposite the Carmel Mountains, is the origin of the biblical flood of Noah, a British marine archeologist said Tuesday.
The new theory about the source of the great flood detailed in the Book of Genesis comes amid continuing controversy among scholars over whether the inundation of the Black Sea more than seven millennia ago was the biblical flood.
In the theory posited by British marine archeologist Dr. Sean Kingsley and published in the Bulletin of the Anglo-Israeli Archaeological Society, the drowning of the Carmel Mountains villages - which include houses, temples, graves, water wells, workshops and stone tools - is by far "the most compelling" archeological evidence exposed to date for Noah's flood.
"What's more convincing scientifically, a flood in the Black Sea, so far away from Israel and the fantasy of a supposed ark marooned on the slopes of Mount Ararat, or six submerged Neolithic villages smack-bang in the middle of the Bible Land?" Kingsley said in a telephone interview with The Jerusalem Post.
He added that the site, which has been excavated by Israeli archeologist Dr. Ehud Galili over the last quarter-century, offers a "pretty convincing cocktail of coincidences," including submerged layers of villages in a critical location, and one that was known for its nautical revolution.
But Galili rejected Kingsley's theory, saying Tuesday that it could not be true.
"Based on our archeological finds, the village was not abandoned due to a catastrophic event, but due to the slow rise of sea levels which occurred all over the world," he said. "The pace of the increase in the sea level was very slow, so that it would not be significant enough for people to remember it in the course of their lifetime."
Galili noted that, following the major tsunami that hit Asia, there was a scientific trend in the world to hunt for mega-disasters that happened in the past.
"We did not find any proofs which indicate that a tsunami or other such catastrophe flooded the villages, even though there are proofs that a tsunami did occur in the Mediterranean Sea," he said.
Kingsley, a self-declared atheist, said he had begun studying the origins of Noah's flood five years ago as a result of his interest into "how mythologies came into existence," as well as a desire to connect the biblical story with global warming.
The alternate theory that the inundation of the Black Sea around 5,600 BCE was the source of the biblical flood is called into question by the fact that no villages, houses, cemeteries or graves have ever been found under its waves, Kingsley said.
Scholars agree the Black Sea flooded when rising world sea levels caused the Mediterranean to burst over land, turning the freshwater lake into a saltwater sea. The flood was so monstrous that it raised water levels by 155 meters and submerged up to 150,000 square kilometers of land.
But scholars are divided on when the flood occurred, and how rapidly. Most believe it took place about 9,000 years ago and was gradual.
The date of the massive flooding on the Carmel Coast, which Kingsley estimates to have taken place between the sixth and fifth millennia BCE, is another unknown.
"The precise timing of this localized flooding is still being worked out, but there is no doubt that the villages of the Carmel were lost not to earthquakes or tectonic movements but to killer waves," Kingsley said.
The lost villages cluster opposite the Carmel Mountains in depths of 12 meters. Atlit-Yam, 10 meters south of Haifa, is the largest submerged Neolithic village in the Mediterranean Sea.
Kingsley's theory about the origin of Noah's flood, an independent archeologist said, is interesting but dubious.
"Whether or not one can make a direct link between the biblical story and the submerged Neolithic sites is doubtful," said Prof. Shimon Gibson, an archeologist with the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. "But it does show that episodes of substantial flooding did occur in these parts of the world and that that kind of fear would have existed within the cultural conscientiousness [sic] of ancient peoples.
"The bottom line," he concluded, "is that overall evidence of [a] world submerged in flood does not exist."
Flood ping.
Yeah, that explains the worldwide nature of global deluge legends.
It is interesting that every major religion around the world says something of a flood event.
The evidence for such an event is overwhelming, he just has his eyes tightly closed to it. The stupid thing is, both evolutionists and creationists agree the world has been 100% flooded. It's just that creationists believe it happened twice, once at creation and again at the Flood. (evolutionists believe in a 100% water covered earth during the pre-Cambrian, surprisingly - making a mockery of many of their anti-flood criticisms.)
http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/3007 has some of the evidence for a global flood.
A G E N D A ....in triplicate.
The water hole at Pebble Beach is the remains of Noah's Flud!
Gee, he might have a point if the story actually originated in Israel. But it didn't. It's a variation of the story of Gilgamesh that the Jews picked up when they lived in Babylon.
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While we imagine we know where the Ark ended up, where was it built? Where did Noah live before the Flood?
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I’ll have to admit I’m sketchy on the OT and the history of the Jews, but didn’t they originate in or near Mesopotamia (I’ve read speculation that the Garden of Eden is in what is now Iraq) and migrate to Israel much later?
When Israel was conquered by Nebuchadnezzer in the 6th century BC, he deported the Jews to Babylon. They were assimlated into that culture and were generally well educated people. When the Persians conquered Babylon the Jews were allowed to return to Israel.
When they came back, they then had the Torah, much of which was influenced by the Babylonian culture. So Genesis places Eden near Babylon, and Noah is a variation on the Babylonian story of Gilgamesh.
Find some New Orleans Katrina survivors.
Ask them to describe what happened.
If none of them says everything was flooded, I'll give you a dollar.
Thanks for the info. I knew about the story of Gilgamesh and that it probably referred to the same event as Genesis, but never was clear on how the Jews got from Eden to Israel.
Cataclysm!: Compelling Evidence of a Cosmic Catastrophe in 9500 B.C.
Best evidence I’ve read for a world-wide flood, written by two British secular scientists, with thousands of footnotes citing academic articles.
It would be rather more relevant if they insisted that the tops of all the buildings, even the skyscrapers, were flooded. Genesis 7:19.
Wide eyed "Even the mountains, Grandpa?"
"Everything!"...
Stories can grow in the telling. But it also sounds like you are not allowing yourself to consider the possibility of a global cataclysm. If you automatically ‘reinterpret’ the documentary evidence to say what you want it to say, then you never really gave it a chance in the first place.
Merry Christmas,
Liberty1970
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