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Top Gun vs. UFO (encounter revealed in files declassified today; pilot confirms)
The Sun (U.K.) ^ | October 20, 2008 | John Coles

Posted on 10/20/2008 3:44:51 AM PDT by Stoat

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Top Gun vs. UFO

 
Locked on ... Sabre jet had UFO in sights

Locked on ... Sabre jet had UFO in sights

 

 
 
 

A FORMER Top Gun told yesterday how he was ordered to shoot down a massive UFO — over NORWICH.

RAF controllers told US pilot Milton Torres to “lock on” and launch all 24 of his rockets over the city.

 

Tale ... Milton Torres as a young man, and today

Tale ... Milton Torres as a young man, and today

 

But as he came within seconds of firing at the alien intruder — “the size of an aircraft carrier” on his radar — it vanished at 10,000mph.

The amazing close encounter is revealed in secret Ministry of Defence X-Files which are declassified today.

Milton said: “It was some kind of alien snooping over England. I guess we’ll never know what it was.”

The incident happened in 1957 when Milton was a 26-year-old US Air Force lieutenant based at RAF Manston in Kent.

At 11pm one night he was ordered to scramble in his F-86D Sabre fighter to attack a “bogey” hovering above Norfolk.

Speaking about it publicly for the first time, he said: “I was told I would be firing a complete salvo, all 24 rockets. I was pumped up — this was the sort of thing that happened before a war.”

 

He got the UFO on his radar and closed for the attack at the Sabre’s top speed of almost 700mph — then it disappeared off his screen in a flash.

 

Milton, now 77, said: “I was smoking, as fast as I could go. This thing had a different propulsion system. It was not an airplane.”

 

The flyer said he was visited afterwards by a sinister security official and warned not to tell anyone — so he kept silent until now.

 

The close encounter is in 19 files made available online yesterday by the National Archives.

 

j.coles@the-sun.co.uk



TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: closeencounter; topgun; ufo
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To: Stoat
closed for the attack at the Sabre’s top speed of almost 700mph

Downhill?

I was just on the Midway and they had one on static display and remember reading the top speed as a little over 600 mph.

101 posted on 10/20/2008 7:49:22 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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To: Quix

Years ago in college, they actually offered a course on UFO’s.

It was mostly an examination of the pros and cons and trying to weigh them in the balance.

Critically, when you look at things like the Condon reports, the veracity and training of witnesses, various types of close encounters, you have to come to a few conclusions.

There is some type of totally unexplained phenomena.
There are “parties” who are trying very hard to cover that fact up.
Short of the Martians landing and blasting cities with death rays, the government will probably not do any kind of “disclosure”. There are simply too many unanswered questions.

The evidence is simply too compelling, especially when it’s people and places who are trained in this area.


102 posted on 10/20/2008 7:51:13 AM PDT by djf (No milk on the shelves = blood in the streets. So what do we do? Send more money to the bankers!)
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To: Quix
So, how many folks who’ve worked around the UFO’s have you talked to?

None, because space aliens don't visit Earth, and I don't know anyone with schizophrenia.

How many internationally known researchers from 3 continents have you talked to?

I heard one call in to coast to coast AM one time. He said space monsters were broadcasting through our mirrors from other dimensions. After that, I made sure to keep a safe distance from the bathroom mirror while shaving. I recommend you consider doing the same.

How many 10’s of thousands of documents, pages have you read since 1962 about the topic?

I read a bunch of space monster books as a kid. When I grew up, I was disappointed to find that many of the "experts" were just lying because they want space monsters to be real so badly.

How many relatives have you had working around the UFO technologies?

None, same as you.

How long have you considered your construction on reality the reigning supreme one?

I don't claim to have all of the answers. However, that doesn't mean that space monsters are visiting us and abducting people on hunting trips.
103 posted on 10/20/2008 7:53:13 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: Oztrich Boy

That guy’s apparently an air-show regular ... At this point, I think somebody has taken a photo of him taxiing, and photoshopped it into a supposed takeoff/landing picture. On landing or takeoff, his canopy is closed. That’s just weird.


104 posted on 10/20/2008 7:56:42 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: razorback-bert
closed for the attack at the Sabre’s top speed of almost 700mph

F-86D Dog Sabre had an afterburning engine with 25% more power than the dayfighter and could make the high 600s

105 posted on 10/20/2008 8:01:27 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Every difference of opinion is not a difference of principle - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Hulka
I never could understand this alleged fear about admitting to seeing something strange or odd

Three letters: PRP.

106 posted on 10/20/2008 8:02:13 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks.


107 posted on 10/20/2008 8:03:31 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: djf

The powers that be are afraid of being lynched

for various ugly decisions they made along the way . . .

for complicity in many American deaths unnecessarily . . . sometimes very deliberately . . .

May well be other reasons as well but that’s a key one that’s been leaked repeatedly the last 10 years or so.


108 posted on 10/20/2008 8:05:10 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: mysterio

I have had a close relative work around the UFO technologies.

Saw them coming and going fairly routinely on his job.

I had hoped you’d be able to restore my appreciation for your critical thinking and research skills. Instead, you managed to trash it lower than ever.

Ah well . . . time will reveal many things.

But the evidence is available in the public domain . . . very high quality even tangible evidence about tangible objects.

You would do well to investigate the organization that’s done the quality vetting of the more than 3,000 cases of tangible evidence left from UFO craft. I think I ref’d it on the AZTEC thread this year. Was a high quality presentation with high quality research.

Of course, if your mind is as closed as it often sounds, don’t bother.


109 posted on 10/20/2008 8:09:43 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix

“Wellllllll, folks, obviously another naysayer waiting for a UFO to land in his lap and castrate him before he’ll get a clue.”

Exactly !.. I am not a denier, but a strong skeptic.
There is zero proof that there are ETs zipping around us.
Show me the beef.
In the meantime, go back to Kook to Kook radio.


110 posted on 10/20/2008 8:10:44 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia. Happy not to be back in the USA for now.)
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To: AlexW

A foolhardy addiction to

A TYPE II ERROR

is unimpressive

and rather unscientific.


111 posted on 10/20/2008 8:12:59 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: B-Chan

You are required to report sightings. PRP has nothing to do with it unless you are seeing flying elephants in the room.


112 posted on 10/20/2008 8:23:55 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: mysterio
Ohhhh. . .you done it now. . . a sensible and logical point of view. . .”they” will come for you as this cannot go unpunished. And don't you get it. . .the complete lack of tangible proof is absolute proof of how good the cover-up actually is.
113 posted on 10/20/2008 8:31:42 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Quix

(I really shouldn’t have to mention this, Quix, but for the sake of others that migth have missed it as well...)

You fail to recognize tongue-in-cheek humor. Relax. It is the proper spelling if you’re in a Commonwealth country.

>>>>
How many military types have you known who were perfect spellers?

or typists?

Or proof readers?

Most such stuff was done by . . . drum roll . . .

humans.

Flawed humans.

Like those on FR.


114 posted on 10/20/2008 8:32:08 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/)
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To: ArrogantBustard

that is a picture of a landing, not take-off. that is why the front wheel is not spinning. also, other posters have said open canopy in that situation is normal. in case of ejection, the canopy will be out of the way.


115 posted on 10/20/2008 8:32:43 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact i DID only read the excerpt.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

True. I’d forgotten that aspect.

Trying to get class prep finished. I often miss a lot of things.

Thanks.


116 posted on 10/20/2008 8:43:32 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix
I have had a close relative work around the UFO technologies.

I have a close relative that raises 80 foot tall pink elephants.

Saw them coming and going fairly routinely on his job.

Then he should register with this site and describe his day to day duties while providing evidence to back up your claim.

But the evidence is available in the public domain . . . very high quality even tangible evidence about tangible objects.

Yes, the photoshops and fake vids have gotten quite good.
117 posted on 10/20/2008 8:44:09 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: AlexW
Do a little research. Would you be surprised to learn that UFOs were spotted over the White House in 1957? How about a P-51 being shot down on Jan.7,1948 over Kentucky? The Russians have been having problems with them as well.
118 posted on 10/20/2008 8:44:09 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: AlexW

The ‘zero proof’ thing

is OUTRAGEOUSLY INACCURATE at this point in time.

Murderers are executed on far less proof routinely.


119 posted on 10/20/2008 8:45:04 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: mysterio

Willful ignorance increasingly is not worth my bother.

Enjoy your

TYPE II ERROR consequences when they arrive.


120 posted on 10/20/2008 8:46:17 AM PDT by Quix (GLOBALIST PLANS FM 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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