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Tropical Invest 91L in northern Gulf of Mexico
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Posted on 08/02/2008 11:46:18 AM PDT by nwctwx



Conditions should be favorable for development and already pretty close into the U.S.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: edouard; td5; tropical; weather; wrangler
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To: Dog Gone

Looks like Edouard is starting to organize. Convection is now almost completely wrapped around the center.


261 posted on 08/04/2008 11:32:57 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Yeah, this is going to be a storm I’m going to have to deal with. What I don’t know is whether the office will be open tomorrow or not. I’m not not particularly keen on coming in if the winds are 50 mph or so, and I’m definitely not interested in driving in a hurricane if there is some rapid intensification in the next 12 hours.

Right now, there’s not a hint of a storm in the local weather conditions. It will be the hottest day of the year and there is almost no breeze or clouds.


262 posted on 08/04/2008 11:38:29 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: dirtboy

Ten seconds after I made that post, the company announced it’s closing early this afternoon and will not be open tomorrow.


263 posted on 08/04/2008 11:45:33 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: dirtboy

Ya think, I am not seeing it but haven’t got any good links to look at either. If the storm is going to get it’s act together it better hurry. Only a few hours of day light left.


264 posted on 08/04/2008 11:50:21 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

Fortunately, from what I've read, it doesn't have deep warm water in its path, which should prevent any explosive intensification. But it still looks a lot more organized than it did a few hours ago.

265 posted on 08/04/2008 11:55:58 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Katlyn

A belated thanks for your local update. Good info.


266 posted on 08/04/2008 12:02:24 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Plants are people too)
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To: NautiNurse

self ping to watch thread


267 posted on 08/04/2008 12:14:41 PM PDT by advertising guy (if you can read this,thank a teacher...if you can read this in english,thank a soldier)
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To: eastforker

bullets?? I always stock up on ammo...just in case I get lucky and get looter....


268 posted on 08/04/2008 12:20:33 PM PDT by DrewsMum (Air up your tires and save the world!!)
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To: Ditter
Army tests of all insect repellants and even rumors of insect repellants said that there's no benefit what-so-ever for Skin-So-Soft...my mom and dad swore by it though.

I trust the Army.

269 posted on 08/04/2008 12:22:34 PM PDT by blam
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To: dirtboy

Yea, starting to look like a real tropical something. Might get a little stronger, but you’re right water temps are (relatively) cool in front of it so it can’t do a Charlie. Might (probably will) rain like heck tomorrow.

Galveston Bay here, so I can give yall good reports.


270 posted on 08/04/2008 12:27:56 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: blam

Skin-So-Soft has never worked for me or a number of people I know. Putting the Bounce dryer sheet in my pocket also didn’t work. Another wives tale (that I haven’t tried) is rubbing a banana peel on your exposed skin. I think I’ll pass on that one. :-)


271 posted on 08/04/2008 12:39:40 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: dirtboy

Deep warm water is very beneficial to a storm that is stalling. Edouard is moving slowly but steadily.

It’s not as if it can sit over waters which it will upwell and provide coooler water to feed on. There is no cooler water it can get before landfall. Water depth at this point doesn’t matter.

The storm looks a whole lot more healthy than it did this morning, although the NW quadrant doesn’t quite have the convection to give it the classic hurricane image. But this morning the whole W/2 looked like crap and it’s much more impressive now.


272 posted on 08/04/2008 12:44:53 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: jpsb
What the heck are you talking about relative cool waters in front of it?? They're warmer!
273 posted on 08/04/2008 12:48:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1007&tstamp=200808

Tropical Storm Edouard is intensifying as it approaches landfall Tuesday morning along the Texas/Louisiana border. Visible satellite loops show Edouard's heavy thunderstorm activity has increased significantly in the past few hours, and is now starting to wrap all the way around the storm. Long range radar out of Lake Charles, Louisiana also shows an increase in the organization and intensity of the radar echoes. Edouard is over ocean waters of about 29°C, which extend to a moderate depth. The Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential, a measure of the total energy available for rapid intensification, is about 30 kJ/cm^2, which is less than the value of 80 typically associated with rapid intensification. Wind shear has fallen from about 10 knots last night to 5 knots this afternoon, which has allowed the storm to organize. A new hurricane hunter plane entered the storm at about 2pm EDT, and so far has measured top winds of 50 knots (57 mph) at the surface with its SFMR instrument.

The shear is forecast to remain below 5 knots through Monday night, but the depth of the warm waters get shallower, with the Tropical Cyclone Heat Potential decreasing to about 10 kJ/cm^2 Monday night.

274 posted on 08/04/2008 12:51:21 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: Dog Gone
well, they are cooler then normal for this time of year and mid 80’s water temps aren't going to give this storm a big boost before landfall. Just my thnking, not an expert, but unless you live right on the water at low elavation or are very unlucky and catch a spin off tornado, this storm is nothing to worry about. Doubt she will even be a weak hurricane by land fall.
275 posted on 08/04/2008 12:57:23 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: jpsb

Are you anywhere close to the Galveston-Port Bolivar ferrys?


276 posted on 08/04/2008 12:58:59 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (Choosing between McInsane and Obamapalooza is like deciding to ingest a slow or fast-acting poison.)
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To: OB1kNOb

I can almost see them from my front year but smiths point block the view. I am in San Leon pretty close to the tip of the peninsula


277 posted on 08/04/2008 1:02:11 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: dirtboy

There’s only so much energy a storm can suck up from shallow hot waters because the amount of energy is quantifiable. It’s a factor of how fast the storm is moving.

An unlimited amount of shallow hot water is surely equivalent to deep hot water if the storm is moving at a rapid pace. Edouard is not moving at a fast clip, so I’d agree that rapid intensification is unlikely. Suits me.


278 posted on 08/04/2008 1:05:20 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: jpsb

Hey there! I think you and I chatted during a previous storm. I’m in Seabrook.


279 posted on 08/04/2008 1:05:29 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: jpsb
I'd agree with you in general terms, but this storm is definitely going to mess your day up tomorrow. There is no difference in my mind between a strong tropical storm and a weak hurricane. 2 mph makes no difference except to statisticians.
280 posted on 08/04/2008 1:10:50 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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