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Romney's Rational
NY Sun ^ | 7/15/2008 | Seth Gitell

Posted on 07/15/2008 10:18:39 AM PDT by sandbox

The coming weeks will answer one very important question about John McCain: does he want to be the Republican Party's presidential nominee or does he want to be president?

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: 2008veep; mccain; romney
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To: ComeUpHigher
...the trashing of Romney is based largely upon his religious affiliation.

And that's a problem... WHY?

61 posted on 07/16/2008 5:40:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SamAdams76
After all, who else but Mitt? Ronald Reagan is dead and Fred Thompson wants to get back into television dramas.

Dang - it sounds SO much like Elijah's lament all over again...

 
 1 Kings 19:14-18
 14.  He replied, "I have been very zealous for the LORD God Almighty. The Israelites have rejected your covenant, broken down your altars, and put your prophets to death with the sword. I am the only one left, and now they are trying to kill me too."
 15.  The LORD said to him, "Go back the way you came, and go to the Desert of Damascus. When you get there, anoint Hazael king over Aram.
 16.  Also, anoint Jehu son of Nimshi king over Israel, and anoint Elisha son of Shaphat from Abel Meholah to succeed you as prophet.
 17.  Jehu will put to death any who escape the sword of Hazael, and Elisha will put to death any who escape the sword of Jehu.
 18.  Yet I reserve seven thousand in Israel--all whose knees have not bowed down to Baal and all whose mouths have not kissed him."  (NIV)

62 posted on 07/16/2008 5:46:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Eighth Square
Mitt will save it for McCain and relieve us of experiencing four years of childish arrogance, massive international blunders and an imploding socialist economy.

But WHO will save us from years of sins and shame of abortion? Greed? Sloth?

63 posted on 07/16/2008 5:48:30 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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I am a christian conservative (catholic) and have no issues with Romeny and his faith. At least he has faith unlike the Muslim bigot named Obuma.


64 posted on 07/16/2008 6:01:11 AM PDT by libscum (don't sit out- vote Mccain)
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To: nmh

nmh,
Since you do not know me, I am astounded at your accusations.
If there was ever a case of “making it personal” on FR, you
just became the definition.

For the record: I don’t hate a single person. That includes
persons (or as you might put it, personages) in any cult.

That doesn’t mean I would vote for them. Nor does it imply
I think Mitt is qualified to be President. I don’t. Nor do
I believe Carter was qualified - and they have much in common.

These days meds are very cheap, what with generics and all.
Seek help.

ampu


65 posted on 07/16/2008 9:31:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

nmh,
Since you do not know me, I am astounded at your accusations.

If there was ever a case of “making it personal” on FR, you
just became the definition.

..

These days meds are very cheap, what with generics and all.
Seek help.

ampu


Take a look in the mirror when you are criticial of me - “getting personal”. You LIVE the definition by example.

You need more help than I ... .

Try and have a good day ... I understand it might be difficult for someone like you ... .


66 posted on 07/16/2008 11:26:15 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: nmh
I have a different reason for agreeing with you, but I think it would a wise and pragmatic move for McCain to go with Mitt. Simply put, a ticket with Mitt on it would be a huge coup for pulling Massachusetts away from the Empty Suit.

Usually it's happened, or so I've read/seen*, that a Dem who loses MA ends up getting his head handed to him. What better to hope for than such a flaming defeat for Barry O.

* = old enough to remember the beatdown Reagan put on Mondale in 1984
67 posted on 07/16/2008 1:33:57 PM PDT by Category Four (Joy, Fun, the Joke Proper, and Flippancy.)
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To: svcw

Bigotry from evangelicals...how does that work again?
Was it like the 90% who voted for MR in Utah, naaaa. ldsers bigots against Baptists perish the thought.
_________________________________________________

Yeppers...mormons cant be BIGOTS

Why in fact all the mormons and the other nice non-BIGOTS who voted for Romney in the primary are now all going to vote for Obama in November..

Just to prove they are not BIGOTS...


68 posted on 07/16/2008 2:32:04 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Diogenesis

Romney was a spoiler in the primary...

If he had dropped out earlier, we would not have ended up with his best buddy McCain...

Romney just stayed in to stop FRed or Duncan from getting the nomination...


69 posted on 07/16/2008 2:35:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Vigilanteman

South Carolina..

“Romney pulled out his campaign organization there to clear the deck for Fred Thompson”
____________________________________________

Who told you that ????

I was in SC the week before the SC Primary...

Believe you me Romney’s campaign was big in SC...

Big and expensive..the bucks flowed like the White House had a price tag...

He and Ron Paul ran neck to neck in signs and workers...

Romney and Romney’s son spoke at the rallies..

Romney had mutliple workers at all the precincts on election day...

They were rude and acted like Hillaryites...

Maybe if Romney and his army of campaign workers had run like he was a Republican candidate instead of a beauty queen, he may have done better...

We all chatted to one another about our candidates and about the Democrats etc..

Even the Ron Paul folk talked to everyone else..

But not the MittNittWitts...

They were a cut above..Too good to talk to common Republicans..

I doubt if they acknowledged Romney was supposed to be one of us...

They were too competive to do any candidate any good...

And Romney went after the nomination as though the world owed it to him..

That’s why we still have to put up with their sore loser syndrome SIX MONTHS after Romney lost..

Or saw the White Elephant and dropped out..


70 posted on 07/16/2008 3:33:57 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: nmh

Romney is responsible for the death of the Maucks...


71 posted on 07/16/2008 3:36:17 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: libscum; Elsie

Romeny and his faith. At least he has faith
________________________________________

But faith in what ???????


72 posted on 07/16/2008 3:41:51 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

I like you...

You are easy to like

:)


73 posted on 07/16/2008 3:42:58 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
You know what you know because you were in South Carolina one week before the primary. I know what I know because I have family, friends and relatives who live in South Carolina and were there up to and including the primary. Some were actually involved in the rival campaigns and report that the biggest share of pre-recorded phone calls came from Huckabee.

One husband/wife pair I know actually split their votes between Romney and McCain because they were so offended by the entitlement mentality of the Huckster. Both are Baptists.

Of course, I will concede it is possible that you know something I don't and that Rush, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity and people with real conservative credentials moved to Romney, not Huckabee, after Fred Thompson dropped out because they are dead wrong and you are right. And it is also possible that I bought the winning Powerball ticket for tonight's drawing.

74 posted on 07/16/2008 4:31:56 PM PDT by Vigilanteman
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To: Vigilanteman

I live in TN and most of the arm twisting demanding phone calls came from Clinton and Romney...

Runner up was McCain and those were a lot nicer folk...

I didnt get cursed out or nearly called BIGOT by them..

I think they were working each other’s camps...

And remember RINO Romney outspent all the other candidates 20 to 1...

And still couldnt buy the white House..


75 posted on 07/16/2008 5:46:07 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

“I like you...

“You are easy to like

“:)

BUT!!!!

Aren’t you a Christian???

I thought from an earlier post that Christians were haters...?????

Oh well, back at ya!


76 posted on 07/16/2008 6:06:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Yeppers...

That’s what they say...

“Christians are haters”

But remember, they also say that ...

We are not Christians...

So it cant be us’ns that’s the haters...

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:)


77 posted on 07/16/2008 6:14:01 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: libscum
I am a christian conservative (catholic) and have no issues with Romeny and his faith.

Too bad his Organization® does NOT feel the same way about YOUR faith!


 

 
 

THE FIRST BOOK OF NEPHI
HIS REIGN AND MINISTRY
CHAPTER 14
 
An angel tells Nephi of the blessings and cursings to fall upon the Gentiles—There are only two churches: the Church of the Lamb of God and the church of the devil—The saints of God in all nations are persecuted by the great and abominable church—The apostle John shall write concerning the end of the world. Between 600 and 592 B.C. 
 
   1 And it shall come to pass, that if the Gentiles shall hearken unto the Lamb of God in that day that he shall manifest himself unto them in word, and also in power, in very deed, unto the taking away of their stumbling blocks—
  2 And harden not their hearts against the Lamb of God, they shall be numbered among the seed of thy father; yea, they shall be numbered among the house of Israel; and they shall be a blessed people upon the promised land forever; they shall be no more brought down into captivity; and the house of Israel shall no more be confounded.
  3 And that great pit, which hath been digged for them by that great and abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell—yea, that great pit which hath been digged for the destruction of men shall be filled by those who digged it, unto their utter destruction, saith the Lamb of God; not the destruction of the soul, save it be the casting of it into that hell which hath no end.
  4 For behold, this is according to the captivity of the devil, and also according to the justice of God, upon all those who will work wickedness and abomination before him.
  5 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, Nephi, saying: Thou hast beheld that if the Gentiles repent it shall be well with them; and thou also knowest concerning the covenants of the Lord unto the house of Israel; and thou also hast heard that whoso repented not must perish.
  6 Therefore, woe be unto the Gentiles if it so be that they harden their hearts against the Lamb of God.
  7 For the time cometh, saith the Lamb of God, that I will work a great and a marvelous work among the children of men; a work which shall be everlasting, either on the one hand or on the other—either to the convincing of them unto peace and life eternal, or unto the deliverance of them to the hardness of their hearts and the blindness of their minds unto their being brought down into captivity, and also into destruction, both temporally and spiritually, according to the captivity of the devil, of which I have spoken.
  8 And it came to pass that when the angel had spoken these words, he said unto me: Rememberest thou the covenants of the Father unto the house of Israel? I said unto him, Yea.
  9 And it came to pass that he said unto me: Look, and behold that great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil.
  10 And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
  11 And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the whore of all the earth, and she sat upon many waters; and she had dominion over ball the earth, among all nations, kindreds, tongues, and people.
  12 And it came to pass that I beheld the church of the Lamb of God, and its numbers were few, because of the wickedness and abominations of the whore who sat upon many waters; nevertheless, I beheld that the church of the Lamb, who were the saints of God, were also upon ball the face of the earth; and their dominions upon the face of the earth were small, because of the wickedness of the great whore whom I saw.
  13 And it came to pass that I beheld that the great mother of abominations did gather together multitudes upon the face of all the earth, among all the nations of the Gentiles, to fight against the Lamb of God.
  14 And it came to pass that I, Nephi, beheld the power of the Lamb of God, that it descended upon the saints of the church of the Lamb, and upon the covenant people of the Lord, who were scattered upon all the face of the earth; and they were armed with righteousness and with the power of God in great glory.
  15 And it came to pass that I beheld that the wrath of God was poured out upon that great and abominable church, insomuch that there were wars and rumors of wars among all the nations and kindreds of the earth.
  16 And as there began to be wars and rumors of wars among all the nations which belonged to the mother of abominations, the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold, the wrath of God is upon the mother of harlots; and behold, thou seest all these things—
  17 And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose founder is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence, in preparing the way for the fulfilling of his covenants, which he hath made to his people who are of the house of Israel.
  18 And it came to pass that the angel spake unto me, saying: Look!
  19 And I looked and beheld a man, and he was dressed in a white robe.
  20 And the angel said unto me: Behold one of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
  21 Behold, he shall see and write the remainder of these things; yea, and also many things which have been.
  22 And he shall also write concerning the end of the world.
  23 Wherefore, the things which he shall write are just and true; and behold they are written in the book which thou beheld proceeding out of the mouth of the Jew; and at the time they proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, or, at the time the book proceeded out of the mouth of the Jew, the things which were written were plain and pure, and most precious and easy to the understanding of all men.
  24 And behold, the things which this apostle of the Lamb shall write are many things which thou hast seen; and behold, the remainder shalt thou see.
  25 But the things which thou shalt see hereafter thou shalt not write; for the Lord God hath ordained the apostle of the Lamb of God that he should write them.
  26 And also others who have been, to them hath he shown all things, and they have written them; and they are sealed up to come forth in their purity, according to the truth which is in the Lamb, in the own due time of the Lord, unto the house of Israel.
  27 And I, Nephi, heard and bear record, that the name of the apostle of the Lamb was john, according to the word of the angel.
  28 And behold, I, Nephi, am forbidden that I should write the remainder of the things which I saw and heard; wherefore the things which I have written sufficeth me; and I have written but a small part of the things which I saw.
  29 And I bear record that I saw the things which my father saw, and the angel of the Lord did make them known unto me.
  30 And now I make an end of speaking concerning the things which I saw while I was carried away in the spirit; and if all the things which I saw are not written, the things which I have written are true. And thus it is. Amen.
 
78 posted on 07/16/2008 7:53:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

placemarker


79 posted on 07/17/2008 7:18:54 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tagline on vacation during the grand experiment.)
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