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Obama isn’t eligible to be President
TIW ^ | 6/10/2008 | Bruce Tyson

Posted on 06/11/2008 6:25:31 PM PDT by Neville72

We already know that Obama is not QUALIFIED to be the President, we now know that he is not ELIGIBLE to be President under American law.

This is a great comment to a post over at Michelle Malkin’s blog:

On June 10th, 2008 at 8:37 am, legendx3 said:

Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. Natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth, which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986? . Presidential office requires a natural-born citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. Citizen parents, which of course is what exempts John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal. US Law very clearly stipulates: “…If only one parent was a U.S. Citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.” Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. Citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born, which means though she had been a U.S. Citizen for 10 years, (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. Citizenship. At most, there were only 2 years elapsed since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i. His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent. Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

*** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. *** Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawaii at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed to have been a U.S. Citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16. Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had, rather than living in Indonesia. Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery. This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. Election law. I think the Gov. Of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being a natural-born U.S. Citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…

DAWG! This guy really is about flaunting his illegal behavior in all of our faces, isn’t he?


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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

That sounds like troll talk to me!

;)


61 posted on 06/11/2008 7:07:27 PM PDT by MWS (Bow to Leper Messiah - the Obamanation That Causes Desolation)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Internets are saying his mom was not allowed to fly because of her pregnancy. She may have given birth in Kenya and then flew to Hawaii. She then applied for a birth certificate.

AFAIK, Mom never went to Kenya or had any contact with the in-laws. She was a college student in HI, met and married a Kenyan and gave birth to a child there.

Even if both of his parents had been foreign citizens, under current interpretations of the constitution he would be a native-born citizen since he was born on America soil.

If he'd been born overseas, he would be a native-born citizen based on his mother's status.

62 posted on 06/11/2008 7:08:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Neville72

You have got to be kidding me. Next, you’ll start telling us about chemtrails, Area 51, and the “Amero”.


63 posted on 06/11/2008 7:11:00 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: Sherman Logan
So a child born on American soil to a native-born (indeed 10th generation, or something like that) American woman is not an American citizen unless she is at least 21 years old?

I wonder how many US Presidents have been "disqualified" by this rule.

George W Bush slipped over the line by just 4 weeks.

64 posted on 06/11/2008 7:12:03 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Society is well governed when the people obey the magistrates, and the magistrates obey the law)
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To: Neville72

And who will be the one to enforce this?


65 posted on 06/11/2008 7:13:05 PM PDT by shekkian
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To: Neville72
Looks like the five years after age 16 (or 14 or whatever) only applies to children born abroad, see http://www.americanlaw.com/citabrd.html
66 posted on 06/11/2008 7:13:54 PM PDT by palmer (Tag lines are an extra $1)
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To: Neville72

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67 posted on 06/11/2008 7:15:21 PM PDT by B-Cause (It's not what you gather, but what you scatter that tells what kind of life you have lived.)
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To: arderkrag

I drove an Amero once. Got 51 mpg in a certain area, but it produced such awful chemtrails that I had to cover my mouth with a piece of paper on the front seat. It unfortunately was Barak Hussein Mohammed Hitler Stalin Obama’s birth certificate that showed he was actually born in Portugal in 1821 to Carmen Miranda and Pierce Brosnan, which would have proved he was ineligible to be President. But I dropped it when the aliens try to abduct me by taking the Amero onto their spaceship.


68 posted on 06/11/2008 7:15:27 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: palmer
Looks like the five years after age 16 (or 14 or whatever) only applies to children born abroad,

Your site seems to be in error: 8 USC 1401. The pertinent paragraph is paragraph g).

69 posted on 06/11/2008 7:18:28 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ClearCase_guy
This topic doesn't truly go away until we see the birth certificate.

True.

70 posted on 06/11/2008 7:20:13 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Non-Sequitur
Sec. 305. [8 U.S.C. 1405] A person born in Hawaii on or after August 12, 1898, and before April 30, 1900, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900. A person born in Hawaii on or after April 30, 1900, is a citizen of the United States at birth. A person who was a citizen of the Republic of Hawaii on August 12, 1898, is declared to be a citizen of the United States as of April 30, 1900.

That should settle the born in HI issue. Unless he's at least 110 years old.

71 posted on 06/11/2008 7:26:29 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Can’t find paragraph g in your link. Also can’t figure out when your reference applies, mine applies to the time of Obama’s birth.


72 posted on 06/11/2008 7:27:37 PM PDT by palmer (Tag lines are an extra $1)
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To: Sherman Logan
Sec. 301. [8 U.S.C. 1401] The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

Pretty well settles the issue. He's a native born citizen.

73 posted on 06/11/2008 7:28:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves. - A. Lincoln)
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To: palmer

Hmmm, the link didn’t work like I’d thought. Scroll down to Act 301 and click on that. Then paragraph g.


74 posted on 06/11/2008 7:31:57 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Thanks.

just trying to quash the rumors...


75 posted on 06/11/2008 7:38:06 PM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: Neville72
Ha ha ha. Ha...

-ccm

76 posted on 06/11/2008 7:46:28 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: SkyDancer

were Goldwaters parents naturalized citizens? If they were, being born in Arizona would be the same as McCain being born in Panama.


77 posted on 06/11/2008 7:47:59 PM PDT by milwguy (........)
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Ran across this..interesting..had to share.

The Jihad Candidate
by Rich Carroll

Conspiracy theories make for interesting novels when the storyline is not so absurd that it can grasp our attention. ‘The Manchurian Candidate’ and ‘Seven Days in May’ are examples of plausible chains of events that captures the reader’s imagination at best-seller level. ‘What if’ has always been the solid grist of fiction.

Get yourself something cool to drink, find a relaxing position, but before you continue, visualize the television photos of two jet airliners smashing into the Twin Towers in lower Manhattan and remind yourself this cowardly act of Muslim terror was planned for eight years.

How long did it take Islam and their oil money to find a candidate for President of the United States ? As long as it took them to place a Senator from Illinois and Minnesota ? The same amount of time to create a large Muslim enclave in Detroit ? The time it took them to build over 2,000 mosques in America ? The same amount of time required to place radical wahabbist clerics in our military and prisons as ‘chaplains’?

Find a candidate who can get away with lying about their father being a ‘freedom fighter’ when he was actually part of the most corrupt and violent government in Kenya ‘s history.
Find a candidate with close ties to The Nation of Islam and the violent Muslim overthrow in Africa , a candidate who is educated among white infidel Americans but hides his bitterness and anger behind a superficial toothy smile.
Find a candidate who changes his American name of Barry to the Muslim name of Barak Hussein Obama, and dares anyone to question his true ties under the banner of ‘racism’.
Nurture this candidate in an atmosphere of anti-white American teaching and surround him with Islamic teachers. Provide him with a bitter, racist, anti-white, anti-American wife, and supply him with Muslim middle east connections and Islamic monies. Allow him to be clever enough to get away with his anti-white rhetoric and proclaim he will give $834 billion taxpayer dollars to the Muslim controlled United Nations for use in Africa .

Install your candidate in an atmosphere of deception because questioning him on any issue involving Africa or Islam would be seen as ‘bigoted racism’; two words too powerful to allow the citizenry to be informed of facts. Allow your candidate to employ several black racist Nation of Islam Louis Farrakhan followers as members of his Illinois Senatorial and campaign staffs.

Where is the bloodhound American ‘free press’ who doggedly overturned every stone in the Watergate case?

Where are our nation’s reporters that have placed every Presidential candidate under the microscope of detailed scrutiny; the same press who pursue Bush’s ‘Skull and Bones’ club or ran other candidates off with persistent detective and research work?

Why haven’t ‘newsmen’ pursued the 65 blatant lies told by this candidate during the Presidential primaries?

Where are the stories about this candidate’s cousin and the Muslim butchery in Africa ?

Since when did our national press corps become weak, timid, and silent? Why haven’t they regaled us with the long list of socialists and communists who have surrounded this ‘out of nowhere’ Democrat candidate or that his church re-printed the Hamas Manifesto in their bulletin, and that his ‘close pastor friend and mentor’ met with Middle East terrorist Moammar Gaddafi, (Guide of the First of September Great Revolution of the Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya)?

Why isn’t the American press telling us this candidate is supported by every Muslim organization in the world?

As an ultimate slap in the face, be blatant in the fact your candidate has ZERO interest in traditional American values and has the most liberal voting record in U.S. Senate history.

Why has the American main stream media clammed-up on any negative reporting on Barak Hussein Obama? Why will they print Hillary Rodham Clinton’s name but never write his middle name? Is it not his name?

Why, suddenly, is ANY information about this candidate not coming from main stream media, but from the blogosphere by citizens seeking facts and the truth? Why isn’t our media connecting the dots with Islam?

Why do they focus on ‘those bad American soldiers’ while Islam slaughters non Muslims daily in 44 countries around the globe? Why does our media refer to Darfur as ‘ethnic cleansing’ instead of what it really is; Muslims killing non Muslims! There is enough strange, anti-American activity surrounding Barak Hussein Obama to peek the curiosity of any reporter. WHERE IS OUR INVESTIGATIVE MEDIA!?

A formal plan for targeting America was devised three years after the Iranian revolution in 1982. The plan was summarized in a 1991 memorandum by Mohamed Akram, an operative of the global Muslim Brotherhood. ‘The process of settlement’ of Muslims in America , Akram explained, ‘is a civilization jihad process.’ This means that members of the Brotherhood must understand that their work in ‘America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.’

There is terrorism we can see, smell and fear, but there is a new kind of terror invading The United States in the form of Sharia law and finance. Condoning it is civilization suicide. Middle East Muslims are coming to America in record numbers and building hate infidel mosques, buying our corporations, suing us for our traditions, but they and the whole subject of Islam is white noise leaving uninformed Americans about who and what is really peaceful. Where is our investigative press? Any criticism of Islam or their intentions, even though Islamic leaders state their intentions daily around the globe, brings-forth a volley of ‘racist’ from the left-wing Democrat crowd.

Lies and deception behind a master plan - the ingredients for ‘The Manchurian Candidate’ or the placement of an anti-American President in our nation’s White House? Is it mere coincidence that an anti-capitalist run for President at the same time Islamic sharia finance and law is trying to make advancing strides into the United States ? Is it mere coincidence this same candidate wants to dis-arm our nuclear capability at a time when terrorist Muslim nations are expanding their nuclear weapons capability? Is it mere coincidence this candidate wants to reduce our military at a time of global jihad from Muslim nations?

Change for America ? What change? To become another ‘nation of Islam’?


78 posted on 06/11/2008 7:50:58 PM PDT by patriot08
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

“There is no doubt that Barak Obama is a natural born U.S. citizen. To say otherwise, or even to insinuate otherwise, sounds about as paranoid and irrational as the “truthers”.”

I have doubts.

There _would be_ absolutely no doubt - IF he chose to make public the essential document that would unquestionably prove this to be so - his birth certificate.

He refuses to do just that, after several requests have been made for him to release it (note: the state of Hawaii does not release birth certificates to the public without the consent of the person _on_ the certificate).

WHY?

What could possibly be on it so embarassing to him? Or so revealing?

Obama is not responsible if the birth certificate reads “white” as his race. He could not control what someone else put in that category at birth.

Obama is not responsible if the birth certificate reads “Islam” as his religion. He could not control what someone else put in that category at birth.

It can’t possbily be either of these that he is afraid of. It is something else.

Questions:
1. Is it possible that the date of issuance of the certifcate does not coincide with the date of birth?
2. If so, by how many days?
3. Does the signature of the physician attending the birth appear on the certificate?
4. If not, why?
5. As improbable as it may seem, could it be that there is no birth certificate at all - and that that is the reason he hasn’t “released” it to the public?

Just wondering...

- John


79 posted on 06/11/2008 7:59:27 PM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: Keith Brown
Is this for real?

That I do not know.

What I DO know is that this is about the 87th time this has been posted here..........

This has taken on a life of it's own - much like the 'whitey' video that never materialized.

80 posted on 06/11/2008 8:03:53 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (Is this tagline governed by McCain-Feingold?)
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