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Posted on 05/03/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

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To: RosieCotton
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And after all... there were an awful lot more of you than there were of him. I was always particularly impressed with teachers who would remember my name when I'd see them, years later, around town, after the thousands of students they've had. How they'd recognize me all grown up and remember my name, I don't know.

3,641 posted on 07/21/2008 7:38:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; RosieCotton
I think because the Maryknolls became so melded into their poor communities that they started taking on their problems personally, and got more into the political solutions than the spiritual ones.

They do a LOT of good for the people in their communities, as the priest at Rosie's parish talked about, with wells, and practical things to help the people live their lives in a better, or at least easier fashion.

There are also lay folks who volunteer with the Maryknolls, and who live in other countries for a year or two, helping the priest in poor areas. We had a Youth Minister in our Parish who, with his wife and daughter, moved to South America to work with the Maryknolls. They came back the following year to do a Mission trip, for a few weeks, to raise money for the Maryknolls, but we were out of town and missed them.

3,642 posted on 07/21/2008 8:03:16 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ; RosieCotton

I may be suspicious but IMHO if you engage Maryknoll folks in a political/religious discussion, they will explain why Catholics are obliged to support Barrack Obama, and that his position in favor of allowing the killing of newborns, if their parents do not want them to survive, is perfectly acceptable to the Magisterium.


3,643 posted on 07/21/2008 2:39:51 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Obama "King of Kings and Lord of Lords")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I was wondering about that earlier. Why vote for someone who is against everything you believe in?


3,644 posted on 07/21/2008 3:28:45 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

I don’t know if Maryknollers would be so blatant about abortion. Unfortunately we humans can justify anything to ourselves, so that’s how some Catholics are ignoring Obama’s support for abortion by focusing on his Social Justice ideas about the poor, the War, health insurance for all, etc. They DO know, without doubt, that killing any unborn child is NOT acceptable to the Magisterium, and it is not acceptable to God.


3,645 posted on 07/21/2008 4:02:29 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ramius
A few years ago, when the new S60 was introduced, I heard a commercial on our local Classical Music radio station, that described the design of the scalloped trunk line as "definitely kick butt".
Unexpected, that was, on that 'upper class' station. ;o)
3,646 posted on 07/21/2008 4:07:39 PM PDT by SuziQ
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I guess I’m answering my own question in #3644 but there are Catholics who always vote Dem no matter what. A lot of my mother’s relatives are an example of that, despite the fact that many of them are as conservative as I am. It makes no sense.


3,647 posted on 07/21/2008 4:13:47 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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To: darkangel82
Those Catholics who continue to vote Democrat, sometimes do so because of a long held tradition in their families. In the Northeast and the RustBelt, there are so many families who are of ethnic origins that were heavily Catholic, but also blue-collar, and therefore, heavily Union. Those folks have always believed that the Democrats were for the "little guy", and that the Republicans were for the business owners, so were against union workers. The other group of Catholics who consistently vote Democrat are those who have put the Social Justice issues above the Life issues. Again, they think that Republicans hate poor people, hate homosexuals, and love war, so they just won't vote for them. That's the Jesuit and Pax Christi influence

The abortion issue is the ONE issue that broke that Democrat Party lock on Catholic votes. Many Catholics will vote for a pro-life Democrat in a State or Congressional election, but won't vote Democrat in a Presidential election, because no pro-life Democrat can make it that far.

3,648 posted on 07/21/2008 6:12:35 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
funny pictures
moar funny pictures
3,649 posted on 07/21/2008 8:26:00 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: Corin Stormhands

LOL! Love that look! They rode in a golf cart to the press conference. There is a sign in the cart window that reads, “Property of #41, Hands Off!” :o)


3,650 posted on 07/21/2008 8:59:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ
In the Northeast and the RustBelt, there are so many families who are of ethnic origins that were heavily Catholic, but also blue-collar, and therefore, heavily Union.

And it's the union, not the Church, that provided them with an upper-middle-class lifestyle and lifetime security.

Every Catholic I see in church personally lives according to conservative principles. They are generally appalled by the average RAT politician, especially since conservatism in that party has been suppressed. But if faced with a hard choice between their faith, and their party, bye-bye Faith.

The Catholic Church in Michigan recognizes reality, which is why the Archbishop has not excommunicated Gov. Granholm (democRAT), and ignores protests that she also is a eucharistic minister at her parish.

Of course, the Catholic hierarchy would still be about 98% liberal, if abortion was taken out of the picture.

3,651 posted on 07/21/2008 9:02:58 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: Corin Stormhands

I’ve been working on a site that prints bumperstickers... and I’m thinking of one that I’ll get after the election, pretty much nomatter who wins, that says:

“Yeah, I miss Bush too. “

It may work nomatter who wins. But especially if Osam... damn... I mean, Obama wins.


3,652 posted on 07/21/2008 9:03:07 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: HairOfTheDog
Danger! Toxic cuteness overload: cat
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You need more kittens.

3,653 posted on 07/21/2008 9:07:29 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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A shame, isn’t it. I am no longer an active Catholic for reasons I don’t want to get into here, but it’s sad to see people give up their faith for political reasons.


3,654 posted on 07/21/2008 9:12:54 PM PDT by darkangel82 (If you're not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. (Say no to RINOs))
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... but it’s sad to see people give up their faith for political reasons.

These UAW Catholics haven't given up their faith yet, they just never really put it into gear. They live an unexamined life, and like liberals everywhere, feel that they are entitled to hold contradictory views that are both valid at the same time.

3,655 posted on 07/21/2008 9:19:07 PM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh

Well... the meeting today went very well. In fact, even better than it needed to. On the way out, my guy that was there to back me up (and did a great job of that...) commented that hey... do you realize what we were just authorized to do? We were just authorized to spend massive money on all the things we’ve really wanted to be doing, but haven’t...

Dang... he was right... this group bought-in on some really expensive and upsetting new ideas with regard to encryption and data protection in general.

This group was the CEO, COO, CFO and the dozen or so group VP’s in charge of the various disciplines. These are the power players: Get buy-in from this group and anything is possible. They haven’t been a change-embracing bunch in the past. In fact... they’ve been the change-killers. They are why we have been so abysmally buried in the past. But all that changed today. This is exceptionally good news.

Apparently we got our message across. We have data that is at risk. The data is at risk is because we cannot adequately control where it is stored, and the encryption of it. We can fix that, but it will mean that we have to enforce new policies. Those new policies will cost money, perhaps lots of it, and that money is OK to spend.

Bingo. That’s what we needed.


3,656 posted on 07/21/2008 10:01:23 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: 300winmag
Of course, the Catholic hierarchy would still be about 98% liberal, if abortion was taken out of the picture.

Probably, because most would still be Democrats, for the same reason most Catholics were always Democrats. This generation of Bishops has incorporated the 'option for the poor', which was championed by Cardinal Bernardin and his generation, so they think the Democrats are better on issues for the poor than the Republicans.

3,657 posted on 07/21/2008 10:09:28 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: 300winmag
These UAW Catholics haven't given up their faith yet, they just never really put it into gear. They live an unexamined life,

I'd say that's true of a large number of Catholics nowadays, and probably a large number of others who would consider themselves Christians, for that matter.

3,658 posted on 07/21/2008 10:12:03 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ramius
Apparently we got our message across.

WooHoo! Felt good, didn't it, especially with the infusion of bucks!

3,659 posted on 07/21/2008 10:13:42 PM PDT by SuziQ
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I do have to say that the whole “infusion of bucks” part of the discussion did get my attention.

Spending money is something I can do. And swiftly, as required. :-)


3,660 posted on 07/21/2008 10:30:35 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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