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Distinctive Dinosaur Death Throes [opisthotonos]
Discover ^ | Wednesday, January 9, 2008 | Richard Morgan

Posted on 01/21/2008 11:15:21 AM PST by SunkenCiv

When the dinosaurs died out some 65 million years ago, many perished in the exact same iconic pose: neck, spine, and tail curved backward, mouth open, limbs contracted. The reason for this characteristic dino death pose has been unclear. Conventional wisdom held that the dead dinos' pose was struck when the muscles contracted under rigor mortis or because the dinos' tendons and ligaments had dried up, suggesting that their bodies had been exposed to the sun for a long time. But if so, why hadn't the bones been scattered by scavengers? ...Cynthia Marshall Faux [has] doctorates in veterinary medicine as well as geology (with a specialty in vertebrate paleontology). It was clear to Faux that the dinosaurs' pose was a sign of opisthotonos, a condition that results from an injury affecting the cerebellum, which regulates fine muscle movement... opisthotonos is usually seen in warm-blooded animals like birds and mammals but not reptiles.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; opisthotonos
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57. Distinctive Dinosaur Death Throes

1 posted on 01/21/2008 11:15:22 AM PST by SunkenCiv
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Gosh, it's almost as if every dinosaur with opisthotonos died of the same cause. :')
 
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2 posted on 01/21/2008 11:17:09 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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3 posted on 01/21/2008 11:17:53 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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Interesting. This is the most compelling evidence I’ve seen for warm-blooded dinos. I’ve seen it in humans due to low serum calcium. It’s also the same posture seen in certain types of brain injury prior to death.


4 posted on 01/21/2008 11:24:22 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Not to discount the sexual prowess of the rabbit, BUT, there's a reason it's not called BUNNY STYLE.)
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To: SunkenCiv
but also advances the argument that these creatures may have had hot blood pumping through their veins.

!!! Hmmm. Hillary: I'm Grateful to Have a Passionate Husband???? Sorry . . . I couldn't help myself! ;-)

5 posted on 01/21/2008 11:25:14 AM PST by maryz
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To: SunkenCiv
Adding to the intrigue is that opisthotonos is usually seen in warm-blooded animals like birds and mammals but not reptiles. Faux’s paper on opisthotonos, published in March, rethinks dinosaurs not just as having died for reasons other than meteor impacts and volcanic eruptions but also advances the argument that these creatures may have had hot blood pumping through their veins.

Interesting.

6 posted on 01/21/2008 11:28:43 AM PST by colorado tanker
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Very. Unless they generally died by hitting their heads on low-hanging branches, or were very susceptible to strokes (fossil brain tumors have already been found in at least one dino), it appears to reinforce the view that there was a single, basically global cause for their disappearance.


7 posted on 01/21/2008 11:33:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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;’)


8 posted on 01/21/2008 11:33:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Like inability to tread water for a year!


9 posted on 01/21/2008 11:34:10 AM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: CholeraJoe
This is the most compelling evidence I've seen for warm-blooded dinos.
I grok that. Somewhere around here I've got a file regarding the various different therms; there are various different kinds of metabolic models, rather than just endothermic and exothermic.
10 posted on 01/21/2008 11:35:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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Very. Unless they generally died by hitting their heads on low-hanging branches, or were very susceptible to strokes (fossil brain tumors have already been found in at least one dino), it appears to reinforce the view that there was a single, basically global cause for their disappearance.

Consider the rise of a new disease or parasite to which the dinosaurs were particularly vulnerable. There are plenty of disease and parasite related ways to damage a brain, that might even explain why the damage was all so similar.

11 posted on 01/21/2008 11:52:50 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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I’ll go with the model for which there is a preponderance of evidence (mass extinction due to impact).


12 posted on 01/21/2008 11:55:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__________________Profile updated Wednesday, January 16, 2008)
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To: LiteKeeper

you beat me to it!
8^)


13 posted on 01/21/2008 12:12:27 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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Drowning Wouldn’t account for the reaction and besides all those nasty huge sharks and other eaters would have gotten them.

No, I’m going for the theory that the Dinosaurs were proto-avian—and died of avian flu germs.


14 posted on 01/21/2008 12:23:40 PM PST by wildbill
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To: SunkenCiv
I’ll go with the model for which there is a preponderance of evidence (mass extinction due to impact).

Well, it strikes me that a cataclysmic and radical alteration of the environment due to the impact is not inconsistent with some sort of resulting brain damage in the creatures killed.

15 posted on 01/21/2008 12:45:19 PM PST by colorado tanker
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Well, it strikes me that a cataclysmic and radical alteration of the environment due to the impact is not inconsistent with some sort of resulting brain damage in the creatures killed.

IIRC, lack of oxygen causes a similar posture in victims of near drowning.

A near global firestorm, followed by a couple months or years of darkness would surely drop oxygen levels. That would be consistent with both the impact and massive volcanism theories.

16 posted on 01/21/2008 1:29:13 PM PST by null and void (We're tired of being sucked up to once every 4 years and stabbed in the back the rest of the time.)
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To: null and void
Or they could just be pining for the fjords...

The earliest feathered dinosaur, Archaeopteryx (plumage not shown). Drawn from specimen at Humboldt Museum, Berlin. The skull is about six inches long.

An ostrich-like dinosaur, Struthiomimus; in the classic posture indicative of brain damage and asphyxiation at death. Drawn from specimen at American Museum of Natural History. The skull is about a foot long.

17 posted on 01/21/2008 1:50:16 PM PST by null and void (We're tired of being sucked up to once every 4 years and stabbed in the back the rest of the time.)
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Warm or cold blooded didn't matter; protoceratops was eating velociraptor for dinner, and

this fish didn't get a chance to swallow, that's how SUDDEN it was.

18 posted on 01/21/2008 3:03:03 PM PST by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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Poor little fishie. Imagine how much and how long he struggled as he choked to death on a meal that was just a little too large to swallow.

If only there had been someone to give him a Heimlich, he'd still be alive today...

19 posted on 01/21/2008 3:08:59 PM PST by null and void (We're tired of being sucked up to once every 4 years and stabbed in the back the rest of the time.)
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To: SunkenCiv
These fossils didn't ALL die at the same moment, in the same position, of the same cause, or even in the same Era. A form of rigor mortis is credited with the pose.

I'll apply Occam's Razor to say that the heaviest part of the body was stuck on the bottom of a moving water source with the head trailing behind—thereafter the body was buried by mud eventually—protected from scavengers. (Assuring the complete fossils that demonstrate the pose so well.)

How'd I do?

:-)

20 posted on 01/21/2008 5:01:18 PM PST by Does so (...against all enemies, DOMESTIC and foreign...)
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