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What do you think of free trade?

Posted on 11/05/2007 8:22:29 AM PST by cradle of freedom

What do you think of free trade? Is it good for the nation as a whole?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: economy; freetrade; jobs
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1 posted on 11/05/2007 8:22:32 AM PST by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom
free trade?

Definition please..........

2 posted on 11/05/2007 8:25:01 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: cradle of freedom

By what right/power would a third party interfere in a business transaction?
Being people in no way superior to the trading participants, why don’t the first two parties just tell the third to stuff it?


3 posted on 11/05/2007 8:25:04 AM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: cradle of freedom

On a level playing field, yes, but when the other players want to dump their goods on us at subsidized labor costs, no.............


4 posted on 11/05/2007 8:28:29 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: cradle of freedom

Most of time, I don’t think the agreements are about free trade. There seems always to be conditions and subsidies.


5 posted on 11/05/2007 8:29:59 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
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To: ctdonath2

So I guess it’s OK for someone in this country to sell nuclear technology to al Qaeda, or weaponry to Iran, by your thinking. Or drugs to grade-school children. Or....


6 posted on 11/05/2007 8:30:33 AM PST by hellbender
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To: cradle of freedom

“Free trade” with countries that produce goods via slave labor is not free trade.

You cannot have free trade agreements with communist countries or even countries that aren’t set up similarly in both political structure and financial structure.

Given those things, what we currently call free trade is not a good thing for the nation as a whole.


7 posted on 11/05/2007 8:31:04 AM PST by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Red Badger
On a level playing field, yes, but when the other players want to dump their goods on us at subsidized labor costs, no.............

Why is that bad?

8 posted on 11/05/2007 8:31:07 AM PST by LeGrande
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To: cradle of freedom

NAFTA? I’d have to say no.


9 posted on 11/05/2007 8:31:09 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: cradle of freedom
Yes- DEFINE free trade. The current definition where other countries tax US goods, and exempt their own producers. The current system where other countries have no labor, safety, chemical use, etc. rules....

Free trade would mean that each country is on an even footing - not placing undue hindrance on the import/export trade - thus keeping everyone on an even playing field.

10 posted on 11/05/2007 8:31:09 AM PST by TheBattman (Duncan Hunter '08)
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To: cradle of freedom
We don't need to be so "open" - minded...
That our [business] brains are falling out!

If we put our US-patriate companies and our overal business interests (and in the longer view the US economy!) at a known disadvantage in the name of "free-trade"...
THEN we need to look at balancing any unfair advantages caused by meddling or surreptitious profiteering/interference by foreign governments, coalitions, or trading partners....

Just my humble....

'Nuff said...

12 posted on 11/05/2007 8:32:24 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: cradle of freedom

Interesting you should post this, as I’ve been giving it quite a bit of thought.

I don’t like so many things not being made here. I don’t really understand the whole GDP issue. I do know an oil and gas person who has told me OPEC doesn’t have as much oil as they used to have.


13 posted on 11/05/2007 8:32:53 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: LeGrande

That would be an “unfair” trade practice, where the government of another country interferes with the “free trade” with American companies having to compete, not only against the foreign companies, but their governments as well.............


14 posted on 11/05/2007 8:39:36 AM PST by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: cradle of freedom

As long as the transaction is conducted without subsidies, and all interests are allowed to compete, then I’m all for it. When the government steps in and starts subsidising, taxing, and restricting trade, then it’s no longer free.


15 posted on 11/05/2007 8:49:36 AM PST by highimpact (Abortion - [n]: human sacrifice at the altar of convenience.)
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To: cradle of freedom

Dr Williams says it’s great that you have a trade imbalance with your grocer. I say that when your grocer is planning your extermination you have a little problem.


16 posted on 11/05/2007 9:02:02 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (I am a proud anti-invasion racist!)
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To: Havoc; hedgetrimmer

ping


17 posted on 11/05/2007 9:04:12 AM PST by Nowhere Man (RIP, Corky, I miss you, little princess!!! (Corky b. 5-12-1989 - d. 9-21-2007))
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To: cradle of freedom

Free and FAIR trade is great!

It’s MANAGED trade we have to worry about. It bogs things down...plus, a fluctuating currency makes it harder to negotiate long-term trade agreements.


18 posted on 11/05/2007 9:07:33 AM PST by TaxesR2High (Vote Ron Paul in 2008)
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To: cradle of freedom

‘Fleece trade’ - Thousands and thousands of pages of government to government dealings open to lobbyists but excluding our representatives.

‘Free trade’ - An addition to ‘GOP’s 101 More Ways to Lose Elections’.


19 posted on 11/05/2007 9:12:11 AM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: cradle of freedom
Here is the problem with free trade, as I see it.

In this country, if we just sell to each other (other americans) we would price our products so that producers could pay for decent wages for workers, safe working conditions, quality assurance and fund some government regulation (like FDA, Dept of Ag) that ensures our products are safe and wholesome.

With free trade we compete with companies in other countries that do not do these things. The result is we can not compete; we lose jobs and import substandard products that are not safe or of good quality. Overall our standard of living will decline to the level of the countries with which we compete. If you disagree then convince me that it is not so.

Our society depends on products. We need food, clothing, transportation, etc. We can not all be in the service industry. Unfortunately academics and those in the service industry, who benefit from lower prices but don't lose many jobs, want you to believe we don't need to produce.

Bring back tariffs.

20 posted on 11/05/2007 9:14:53 AM PST by citizenmike
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