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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation #3

Posted on 04/07/2007 3:14:35 PM PDT by mom4kittys

Thread Number 3


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: aboutthebaby; anna; annanicole; ans; deadwrongdaddy; getalife; giveitup; hksisafillintheblank; howietheleach; ilovelarry; killingmesoftly; larryisawesome; larryisthedaddy; larrysalunatic; lazyboylarry; lovechild; movealong; nojusticenopeace; oneheroinevirgie; overbonbonsdeadbody; prayersfordannielynn; ritaisaliar; ritaisnotaliar; shameonlarry; spermdonorsanonymous; sternsaresquatters; teambirkhead; thefatladywarmingup; thefirm; turkeybasterd; virgieisevil; virgieisnotevil
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To: sodpoodle
So the contract was one session a month?

Now, remember, Anna went to the Bahamas to get away from the media.

5,581 posted on 04/16/2007 11:57:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Dante3

He played football in High School. I thought it was in college. Sports are mandatory in high school...so what’s the big whoop. Lingering injury....Did he sue???


5,582 posted on 04/16/2007 12:00:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Sacajaweau

And she jumped in the water 20 days after having a C-Section?? What was she on THAT day???
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As a mother of three with three c-sections, I’m telling you, you don’t just jump in water and get up. It’s hard enough to get up from waves, much less with stitches/staples!!


5,583 posted on 04/16/2007 12:01:25 PM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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To: TexKat

“”””As she grows up, if she has a sense that this man fought long and hard to win custody of her, that will be a positive message for her,” Lee says””””””

And how her grandmother fought to bring the people responsible for her brother’s and mother’s deaths - to justice...will illustrate how much her mother was truly loved by her maternal family.


5,584 posted on 04/16/2007 12:03:04 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( sparrows are underrated)
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I received a private message asking me whether or not I knew if a wrongful death suit could be filed after an accidental cause of death has been determined.

The answer is yes. You can still bring a wrongful death suit against a person even where the cause of death has been determined accidental.

Many professional legal opinions are out there, and they agree with that analysis, but here's one that specifically addresses the issue with Anna Nicole Smith in mind: Is A Wrongful Deathsuit Possible?

Note that this attorney alludes to the fact that Guardianship for Dannielynn would put Virgie in a better legal position for such a suit. It's not just Dannielynn who has grounds. Both parent of the deceased and child of the deceased are eligible to sue in Florida, Mr. Turkewitz. Being Guardian of the child as well as the parent of the deceased however, does consolidate the issue and the child being a minor in need, would make for stronger issues in the suit. Whether those are Virgie's intentions or not, we'll find out soon enough.

Much is going to rely on the California Medical Board. If Eroshevich is found negligent, I imagine it's a downward spiral from there for Stern.

So, taking it all in context, it's a good reason why Stern is positioning himself to rid Virgie of any type of Guardianship. Also having control of the estate doesn't hurt for obvious reasons there -- and they make for even better reasons later on.

I keep referring to the game of chess, because that's exactly how lawyers play this game. Emotions are saved for the cameras. Strategy is the focus. Stern is picking as many pieces off the board as he can while trying to maintain an offense which is dwindling quickly. If you understand the mechanics of chess, it stands to reason to deduce that once Stern rids the board of Virgie, Birkhead is the next piece to contend with. Therefore, from my observations, Birkhead stands stronger with Virgie, then without her. The question in my mind goes to why Birkhead even listens to anything Stern has to say. Is Birkhead looking for a Stalemate or is he just stupid?
5,585 posted on 04/16/2007 12:04:33 PM PDT by Bronwynn
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
Doc go here http://www.moono.com/html/anna-nicole-smith/anna-nicole-smith-pictures-page4.cfm and enlarge these.

UGH!


5,586 posted on 04/16/2007 12:04:43 PM PDT by TexKat ((Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.))
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To: Bronwynn

Great analysis.


5,587 posted on 04/16/2007 12:08:39 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes, could have been touch football in PE.


5,590 posted on 04/16/2007 12:10:32 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: TexKat
Thanks for the pictures of Dannielynn...she is a beautiful baby.

Regarding the "Parenting Advice for Dannielynn's Daddy" - it seems almost everyone knows better than the parent what to do for the baby. Even me! I would think twice before I moved to Vermont...a State that many of its residents embrace a Socialistic form of government. As far as getting mental health or family therapy for a baby; I wouldn't even think of such a thing at Dl's age! If she's brought up in a stable home with her self image intact, she may not need a therapist. I had a book written by 18 top children psychologists (a gift w/second baby)and after trying a couple of their suggestions, I decided to follow the path in which I had been brought up! My older child was smarter than the writers! One of their suggestions that I thought was good was if you had to punish your child - be sure and let them know you weren't punishing them out of anger, but love. After speaking to the older (3 1/2 yrs. old)child several times, I finally gave her a couple of pops on her bottom, and proceeded to explain that I was not angry, but that I spanked her because I loved her and didn't want her to be a naughty child. Less than 5 minutes afterward, she misbehaved again, and when I asked if I hadn't just spanked her for that, she came over, climbed up on the arm of my chair, patted my cheek, and said, "But, Mommy, I'm just naughty cause I love you." I put the book away and haven't used it since. I did loan it to a neighbor, and I never heard whether it helped her or not. I'm sure there are times when therapy is needed, but I would suggest trying good common sense first!

5,591 posted on 04/16/2007 12:22:32 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: TexKat
I beg your pardon. A lot of people on this thread had a very high opinion of Mr. Hogan when he first appeared on GVS's show.
5,593 posted on 04/16/2007 12:26:47 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Southerngl

So because Anna was still alive, Larry was willing to allow Dannielynn to remain in a drug den?


5,594 posted on 04/16/2007 12:32:38 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Dante3

I have some doubts that is Anna in the dedication ceremony. Seems one poster - one who did an interesting analysis but I forgot who, there being so many - noted a weight gain in Anna’s arms. Whatever, something is odd about that video.
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That was me. I do not see how she gained THAT much weight in 20 days. She was way thinner in the hospital photos with Daniel. Now I eat under stress, but I would assume that under that kind of grief, with the drugs she surely was administered to keep her sedated... she wouldn’t have time awake to pack on those pounds that pregnancy didn’t pack on.


5,595 posted on 04/16/2007 12:34:55 PM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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To: Southerngl

Great observation. I believe you are on to something.


5,596 posted on 04/16/2007 12:37:23 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: Bronwynn

Is Birkhead looking for a Stalemate or is he just stupid?

I vote for the latter, maybe naive is a kinder word.
I understand a man wanting to have Um, “relations” with ANS. However, how many would want an infrequently sober, chaotically inclined, mercurial person to carry their baby?

It would have to be someone not thinking very far down the road or looking for financial opportunity or someone as you said, stupid, maybe even star-struck and naive. Certainly not someone given to thinking about things in much depth.

But having said that, LB’s not much worse than many young fathers and this might be his finest hour. Maybe he’ll grow up. From the latest maneuvers, he certainly seems to be able to pull his wagon into position with whomever or whatever seems to suit his needs of the moment.


5,597 posted on 04/16/2007 12:41:46 PM PDT by nynjanais
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To: Alice in Wonderland

“”””Don Hogan fooled us, we all thought he was such a great guy -— when in actuality he was a drunk who sexually abused children.”””

I listened to Donna Hogan’s interview where she made the claim that her father (Don Hogan) abused her and that Anna turned on Donna “because Anna thought her Daddy was a God”..Donna Hogan has made contradictory statements about several circumstances...I wonder if there are others supporting her claim against Don Hogan?

Don Hogan did support Virgie’s custody effort...which I found endearing. Now, I am very skeptical. Ah well, we hardly know any of these players - we should wait like jurors for the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But we won’t! LOL


5,598 posted on 04/16/2007 12:45:46 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( sparrows are underrated)
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To: Bronwynn

I’m really glad you joined the FReep ANS Brigade - your posts are insightful and very informative.

Thanks

sp


5,599 posted on 04/16/2007 12:50:11 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( sparrows are underrated)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

So because Anna was still alive, Larry was willing to allow Dannielynn to remain in a drug den?
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He had no authority to ask for anything until paternity was established.


5,600 posted on 04/16/2007 1:01:16 PM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Longstanding member of the FIRM)
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