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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

Edited on 03/09/2007 9:36:53 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Lizarde

That's the only thing I can think of as to why he would ask that. Can you?


2,801 posted on 03/15/2007 10:21:55 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: mom4kittys; Jrabbit; All

see post 2800


2,802 posted on 03/15/2007 10:23:10 AM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Sacajaweau

"But none of that changes the mathematical possibilites of "two related people" "dying in different places" "within a particularly small timeframe from the "Time last seen alive until time of death" with ONLY ONE PERSON IN COMMON who had direct access to both and were a contolling factor in both lives."

I would add "two related YOUNG people" in your statement. Old people, maybe this wouldn't be so unusual. The youth of ANS and DS increases the odds against such an event occurring.


2,803 posted on 03/15/2007 10:23:47 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: stlnative

I thought of that too, but maybe if someone is administering the drugs other than ANS, it could be considered a crime, intentionally or not. It would also rule out suicide.


2,804 posted on 03/15/2007 10:25:14 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: windchime
If HKS communication with Dubai about a move is true, it could establish premeditation.

Someone will correct me if wrong, but i believe the original story on the Dubai move had to do with getting away from the papparrazzi. Does ANS seem like someone who wanted to get away from those guys? No. She wasn't. The Bahamas i can understand. But we all know that's not why she was there and it wasn't for the beaches or palm trees. But Dubai? Biiiiiggg Difference! Anna would fit in their like a big square block into a small round hole.

2,805 posted on 03/15/2007 10:25:54 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: stlnative

If that person was conscious you would if that's your routine. ANS could have gotten suspicious.


2,807 posted on 03/15/2007 10:27:14 AM PDT by TrishaSC (TEAM BIRKHEAD)
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To: Southerngl

LOL! It took me a while to get that one. That was a DYNO-MITE comeback!


2,808 posted on 03/15/2007 10:28:55 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes, it does.

Also, I saw this TMZ guy on something today (It might have been a rerun) and he said that they know what the other drug RX is, but haven't published it yet.


2,809 posted on 03/15/2007 10:29:46 AM PDT by Howlin (Honk if you like Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Lizarde
"OK so what's with injectible demoral and alcohol wipes?"

Hepatitis C positive? I've just got this sinking feeling Perper will say ANS died of an intentional or unintentional OD: self-inflicted. IF this is not a homocide investigation, it's going to be criminal for the prescribing docs only. Living and working in Broward County, I don't understand how Perper can be so naive when it comes to murder (seemingly).

2,811 posted on 03/15/2007 10:32:04 AM PDT by TennesseeGirl
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To: sodpoodle

"Is it possible that Taz or one of the people in the hotel room with ANS - phoned one of the prescribing doctors (KE & Kapoor) and then followed up with an email on all the drugs in the room....trying to determine if she was having a drug reaction and what antidote or measures to take to revive her?"

Good idea!


2,812 posted on 03/15/2007 10:32:05 AM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: stlnative

However, wiping them with a alcohol swab before you inject them would make it appear more like an accident than intent to do harm....unless you are fighting them to do it.


2,814 posted on 03/15/2007 10:34:12 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Official Thread Nanny under threat of extinction)
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To: uncitizen

>>>And this explains why she "didn't need any supervision" at the Hard Rock, but was by all appearances being supervised at all times.>>>

Yes, that is odd in itself and if the investigators don't pick up on it, they are stupid. This woman was NEVER alone, ever. Except this convenient little 15 minute window that SHE DIED.


2,815 posted on 03/15/2007 10:34:44 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: mom4kittys
I'd say he found an recent injection site on her body that she could have done herself. The outer skin would be fairly clean around that injection site if someone used a alcohol swab. Perper wants to know she was in the habit of using alcohol swabs before she injected herself.

Anyone in the medical field or anyone who injects themselves often knows that you should use a alcohol swab.

My guess is this injection site was not cleaned with a alcohol swab and Perper knows this. He also knows what was injected at the injection site as tissue in that area would have more drugs in it if the injection was recent.

Still it does not show if she injected it herself to commit suicide or if someone else did it to kill her. Plus we don't know if she used sterile methods in the past when injecting herself. Perper is using the process of elimination by finding out her habits.
2,816 posted on 03/15/2007 10:35:16 AM PDT by stlnative (The Queen of Spelling & Grammar Errors! - http://community.webshots.com/user/dannielynnhopebirkhead)
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To: Sacajaweau
Did he think that the Indian police would be very quiet so the reputation of the Hard Rock wouldn't be harmed??

It's possible, but i don't think they'd cover up a murder just for the Hard Rock. The HR will recover from this. They've done nothing wrong that we know of.

Is Trimspa no longer welcome at the Hardrock??

IMO, it's the other way around. Trimspa is probably, as we speak, working to break off whatever deal they had with the HR. They DO NOT want to remind anyone what happened to their big (then skinny) star at the HR.

2,817 posted on 03/15/2007 10:35:30 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: TrishaSC

>>>I've got my fingers crossed but I'm scared he's gonna get away with.>>>

Me too. It still pisses me off that OJ is playing golf in the sun in a nicer house than I'll ever have.


2,818 posted on 03/15/2007 10:35:39 AM PDT by Southerngl (TEAM BIRKHEAD Firm Member: CIO (Chief Information Officer))
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To: Sacajaweau

Oh, I know what you're saying. That's why the intense interest in this case- the two deaths so closely bound in time and circumstances.
That's what I thought at first, too. That having Dannielynn sorta negated the suicide theory. Most people who commit suicide do so, leaving behind people who love them, children, parents, friends. Most left behind are surprised and don't understand why the person did it. Perhaps Anna felt she didn't deserve DL, felt very guilty about Danny, and we know her mind wasn't right, influenced as it was by drugs.
There's still a good chance an illness/medical condition contributed to cause of death, if it wasn't an outright suicide. I'm intrigued by the reports of Anna's seizure history and migraine history, as well. Until we get Perper's findings, we won't know. I have several scenarios in my head, but the one scenario that's not in there is that Stern deliberately murdered her. Remember though, I said I'd eat my words if proven wrong. Y'all have it in writing, LOL!


2,819 posted on 03/15/2007 10:35:40 AM PDT by tabor
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To: TrishaSC

Thanks!


2,820 posted on 03/15/2007 10:37:26 AM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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