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Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

Posted on 03/09/2007 8:53:08 PM PST by mom4kittys

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To: Dr. Scarpetta; All

The Progressive Liberal Party gathered to give thanks to God last Sunday 18th March at a prayer breakfast at the Radisson hotel in Cable Beach, Nassau. The leadership of the Party is pictured in the front row enjoying the event.

and look at the bald head Shane Gibson in the second row.

14,281 posted on 03/29/2007 4:25:00 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: shywolf

"Does anyone here believe Daniel could be Dannielynn's father?"

No way. First of all, Daniel would not do it, and second, Anna might have been promiscuous, but not incestuous.
That's my opinion.


14,282 posted on 03/29/2007 4:28:30 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: scoobeedoo

Wow, yet *another* scenario as to where HKS was when ANS "collapsed."

1) At the marina with the Cracker docked - HKS got phone call, walked 40 feet to his car in the parking lot and left (a poster saw this re-enacted on local TV in FL); no mention of anyone with HKS

2) With the broker Dekema, according to Dekema, at Reel Deal Yachts; location of Cracker unknown in this account; exact location at Reel Deal of Dekema and HKS unknown in this account; no mention of KEG and crew man; Dekema said ANS had visited the boat earlier in the week

3) HKS and King Eric taking possession of the Cracker *at* Reel Deal Yachts, according to Reel Deal owner Morjain

4) At sea on the Cracker with a V&G employee, HKS talking on phone with Dekema; Cracker is hurried back to the V&G dock (in Dania Beach) when HKS gets the bad phone call in midst of Dekema phone call; V&G employee helps HKS off boat quickly; no mention of any presence of King Eric or KEG's crew man; this according to Pyle, V&G owner

5) At the V&G boatyard with Hicks and Zamataro; Cracker is at dock there, being inspected; HKS gets the phone call and leaves quickly; no KEG or crew man mention

6) HKS and KEG at the Reel Deal dock with an unnamed RD employee, according to Bruck, the RD manager; preparing the Cracker for travel; HKS got call and had morbid look on his face and had to leave; no mention of KEG's crew man

7) HKS "on the boat" in Ft Lauderdale when he got the phone call; Reel Deal said the Cracker left on Friday for The Bahamas

8) Reel Deal mgr Bruck said KEG and Brigitte were to sail the Cracker to the Bahamas on Friday morning, but that HKS and ANS were not going to be aboard


--Reel Deal Yachts is at the Fontainebleu Resort on Miami Beach; but I don't know where the Cracker was actually moored or had been docked previous to 2-8-07
--HKS and ANS had bought the boat 2 weeks before (approx 2-22-07), KEG accompanying them to the dealership
--ANS friend Sandy Serrano from Studio City and Bakersfield, CA, had gone to The Bahamas to visit the week of the boxing match they attended (1-6-07) and had gone to the Hard Rock with them when ANS decided she wanted a boat and HKS went out to find one

>>>Thos are just a few of the accounts I had in my notes and there may be more in many other places!


14,283 posted on 03/29/2007 4:29:38 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: toldyou

BAHAMAS: Inquest on hold in death of Anna Nicole Smith's son

NASSAU, Bahamas (AP) - An inquest into the death of Anna Nicole Smith's 20-year-old son was put on hold Thursday pending a legal challenge filed by Howard K. Stern, the lawyer-turned-partner of the former Playboy Playmate.

A judge in the Bahamian Coroner's Court had picked a seven-member jury and was preparing to call witnesses when Stern's lawyers persuaded him to halt the proceedings until the Supreme Court could rule on a motion to submit a questionnaire to potential jurors to gauge any bias.

Stern attorney Wayne Munroe argued it would be "reckless" to continue the inquest before the Supreme Court had ruled on the issue.

Chief Magistrate Roger Gomez had previously rejected the motion for a jury questionnaire, saying there was no provision for one in the Bahamian legal code. He also questioned its value.

No date has been set for a Supreme Court hearing on the issue and it was unclear when the inquest would resume, though jurors were instructed to return to court on April 11.

Daniel Smith died Sept. 10 as he visited his mother three days after she gave birth in a Nassau hospital to her daughter, Dannielynn. Authorities say he died from a lethal combination of drugs, including methadone and antidepressants, but an inquest was convened to determine whether the death was accidental, suicide or perhaps even a homicide.

http://www.examiner.com/News-Anna_Nicole.html?cid=gaw-topics


14,284 posted on 03/29/2007 4:34:12 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
But it is good to know that the bumb had a hangover.

What does a hangover look like? Maybe wrinkled clothes like he slept in them, messed up hair, didn't wash his face, etc.

14,285 posted on 03/29/2007 4:36:49 PM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: Jrabbit
I wonder how he'll explain a child dying of an accidental overdose?

Maybe he'll try, what's that thing called where a baby sleeps on their stomach and can't breathe, oh yeah SIDS (sudden infant death syndrome)?

14,286 posted on 03/29/2007 4:39:31 PM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: uncitizen

Probably the way we always see Howard in pics with the exception of when he and ANS had to attend a court appearance.


14,287 posted on 03/29/2007 4:41:41 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Not only that.... did you get what the trick they are trying to play with paternity is? Saying DNA swab is not accurate, only blood is accurate and cannot take her blood for DNA testing until she turns 18 and consents to the test.

Did this happen today also ?

Someone on the GOOD side of this has to start getting on the ball !!

14,288 posted on 03/29/2007 4:42:57 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Spade Sticks It to Howard K. Stern

Posted Mar 29th 2007 2:15PM by TMZ Staff


David Spade is taking shots at Anna Nicole Smith's diary, Dr. Joshua Perper and Howard K. Stern on tonight's episode of "The Showbiz Show."

In this sneak peek, Spade talks about the custody battle for Anna Nicole's daughter, Dannielynn, and calls out Howard K. Stern, saying, "The guy spending thousands of dollars hiding out in a lawless Caribbean country ... might not be the dad."

http://www.tmz.com/2007/03/29/spade-sticks-it-to-howard-k-stern/


14,289 posted on 03/29/2007 4:44:21 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
Probably the way we always see Howard in pics with the exception of when he and ANS had to attend a court appearance.

Yeah. That's it. Exactly like that.

14,290 posted on 03/29/2007 4:46:56 PM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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Inquest into death of Anna Nicole Smith's son on hold pending challenge

Jessica Robertson, Canadian Press
Published: Thursday, March 29, 2007

NASSAU, Bahamas (AP) - An inquest into the death of Anna Nicole Smith's 20-year-old son was put on hold Thursday pending a legal challenge filed by Howard K. Stern, the lawyer-turned-partner of the former Playboy Playmate.

A judge in the Bahamian Coroner's Court had picked a seven-member jury and was preparing to call witnesses when Stern's lawyers persuaded him to halt the proceedings until the island's Supreme Court could rule on a motion to submit a questionnaire to potential jurors to gauge any bias.

Stern's lawyer Wayne Munroe argued it would be "reckless" to continue the inquest before the Supreme Court had ruled on the issue.


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Font: ****No date has been set for a Supreme Court hearing on the issue and it was unclear when the inquest would resume, though jurors were instructed to return to court on April 11.

"I'm very disappointed with the delay tactics they are using," Virgie Arthur, Anna Nicole Smith's mother, told reporters as she left the court. "But I'll be here every day. I'll be here until the end."

Daniel Smith died Sept. 10 as he visited his mother three days after she gave birth in a Nassau hospital to her daughter, Dannielynn. Authorities say he died from a combination of drugs including methadone and antidepressants, but an inquest was convened to determine whether the death was accidental, suicide or perhaps even a homicide.

Anna Nicole Smith died Feb. 8 in Florida from an accidental overdose of prescription drugs, including a powerful sleep aid that a lawyer for Stern said she took to cope with grief over her son's death.

Bahamian officials had summoned dozens of witnesses for the inquest, including Stern and Larry Birkhead, a California photographer and former boyfriend of Smith's who claims he is Dannielynn's father and has petitioned for custody of the girl.

A Bahamian court had ordered DNA tests of Dannielynn to determine paternity, but that order has been appealed by Stern to the island's Court of Appeal, which was scheduled to hold a hearing on the matter on Monday.

http://www.canada.com/saskatoonstarphoenix/news/lifestyle/story.html?id=d06a64c3-4d07-4319-ac20-f0bb55201170&k=11887


14,291 posted on 03/29/2007 4:47:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Kimberly GG

They're going to rewrite the laws for Stern, haven't you heard?


14,292 posted on 03/29/2007 4:51:46 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: All

http://www.steadyhealth.com/How_long_do_methadone_withdrawal_symptoms_last_and_what_they_t80438.html

This is info from someone who went through it:

METHADONE--
Methadone is considered more difficult to get off, because the withdrawal symptoms are more difficult than even heroin. The reason for this is because of the synthetic opiates' storage in your tissue--and more importantly, the half-life of Methadone is (on average) 25 hours (13-47 hours), with peak absorption in 4 hours. However, Methadone lasts for approximately 25 hours for the average patient, BUT there are a few of us who have taken it every 8 hours to reduce the amount of Methadone needed (for pain management), by reducing the zig-zag effect of depleting and replenishment of Methadone within our tissues.

As a result, Methadone patients may not experience many withdrawal symptoms for 24-48 hours after their last dose. [Everyone is different]. After 48 hours, the symptoms of withdrawal will peak within 7-10 days and begin to lessen over the next 7-14 days; however, it depends on a number of variables: how long the patient was taking Methadone; the amount the patient was taking; how quickly the patient has chosen (or been forced) to detox; what the last amount—with respect to the patient’s peak dosage—was; a person’s weight (especially if the patient has experienced quick weight gain, because more Methadone will be stored in your tissues with less blood absorption); age; etc.

The symptoms of withdrawal, and the severity of the symptoms, depend on the variables above; but, and most importantly, it depends on the patients state-of-mind and preparation for detoxification. Most patients do not realize that there are two types of cravings—mental addiction and physical dependency. If a patient is on the Methadone for medicinal reasons, it will be easier for the patient to recover from the withdrawal symptoms, but if the patient has a mental addiction, the patient will be faced with craving to withdraw and take the Methadone as an out. Fortunately, Methadone does not have the same level of euphoria as do other chemical compounds, but nonetheless, it is still significant enough in the patient’s mind that it may not matter the chemical side.

Before covering the symptoms of withdrawal, it is important to point out one last key component of Methadone—in that, it mimics the level of peptides—such as, Endorphins, Enkephalines, and Dynorphins, which causes the brain to assume that your ARTIFICIAL level of good feeling is required for normal life functioning. As a result, the most difficult withdrawal is a MENTAL withdrawal that your brain feels you need in order to survive. This is affectionately referred to as “cravings.” These cravings WILL FORCE most patients into taking Methadone, because the cravings are too intense; hence, most professionals recommend that you seek professional help (detoxification center), so that they may monitor you for your health and to give you the support needed to NOT GIVE IN to the CRAVINGS! (IMPORTANT NOTE: I almost died coming off of my Methadone too quickly, because I wanted to show myself that I could do it as long as I WANTED to. I was wrong! I seized, and I was VERY lucky that my family was with me at the time, because the doctors had to resuscitate me and push Methadone into me to prevent an immanent heart attack. Don’t be foolish, we know you are mentally strong, why else would you be interested in reading this? Be alive to live your life after this necessary evil—PLEASE!!!)

So, what are the symptoms? Here you go! Sneezing, yawning, tearing of eyes, runny nose, excessive perspiration (cold sweats and hot sweats, especially at night), fever, dilated pupils, abdominal cramps, nausea, body aches, tremors, irritability, not to be morbid, but even death in extreme cases. Finally, sleep is your best friend during withdrawals, BUT you will find it next to impossible to sleep. I recommend taking 25-50 mg of Dyphenhydramine (Benadryl), but NOTHING ELSE! You don’t want to exchange one craving today with another craving in two months, once you are beginning to see the other side of the tunnel. (IMPORTANT: Benadryl SHOULD NEVER BE ingested in amounts greater than 50 mg every 4-6 hours, and no more than 8 pills per 24 hours, because of severe respiratory concerns. Muscle relaxants can assist (for many reasons), but again—be reasonable; DRINK lots of WATER; ensure that you get your electrolytes (banana a day, Gatorade); Ensure or Boost are excellent meal replacements, because you will lose your appetite; and make certain that you take care of your hygiene (shower, brush your teeth, put on comfortable, but NOT bedtime clothes for mental effectiveness). Lastly, there are medications (Clonidine, for example) that MAY significantly assist you while you detoxify, but reports of significant exhaustion and tiredness may make it worse, not to mention the fact that it will lower your blood pressure. I have chosen not to go this route, because the ‘cravings’ are psychological and I can beat it in my mind—‘mind over matter.’


14,293 posted on 03/29/2007 4:52:47 PM PDT by Luvlyness
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To: TexKat

I didn't hear that...doing taxes all day. Did they say when it will resume?


14,294 posted on 03/29/2007 4:53:47 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: Arizona Carolyn

You are correct. I heard it wrong.


14,295 posted on 03/29/2007 4:54:49 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Stern's technique is to delay, appeal, get a continuance, rewrite Bahamian law and so one. And the more time passes, eventually he'll outlast us all...he thinks.


14,296 posted on 03/29/2007 4:57:14 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

It's hard to imagine five years from now what will have happened in the lives of Dannielyn, Larry and Virgie.

Thinking ahead - Dannielyn will always be a focus of the tabloids - perhaps we can boycott all the photos and stories if she is still (God Forbid) under the control of an unrelated adult male.


14,297 posted on 03/29/2007 5:04:57 PM PDT by sodpoodle ( laughter - the antidote for despair)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I'm in Florida. I don't know if it's all states. We probably have enough representation here to test.


14,298 posted on 03/29/2007 5:07:39 PM PDT by windchime (I consider the left one of the fronts on the WOT.)
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To: All

Since things are a little slow right here i'll throw out an outside the box idea.

Is it possible that Anna was suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

Some of us believe she was being held hostage in that house? Whereever she went, she had Howard or a "bodyguard" with her (which per se is not so unusual, but heck even Paris Hilton goes out shopping by herself sometimes and bodyguards aren't attached to her hip). Even on LKL she had Howard right next to her.

On this site http://ask.yahoo.com/20030324.html you'll see that the original Stockholm incident took only 6 days. And "small acts of kindness" by the captors are what gives the captor power over the victim. Also violence, threats, duress, etc.


14,299 posted on 03/29/2007 5:09:38 PM PDT by uncitizen (Set America's baby free!)
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To: toldyou

No they have not toldyou.


14,300 posted on 03/29/2007 5:09:42 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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