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Ancient toilet may be new evidence of Jewish sect
Chicago Tribune ^
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Posted on 01/04/2007 8:28:52 AM PST by SJackson
QUMRAN, West Bank -- Researchers say their discovery of a 2,000-year-old toilet at one of the world's most important archaeological sites sheds new light on whether the ancient community was home to the authors of many of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
In a new study, three researchers say they have discovered the outdoor latrine used by the ancient residents of Qumran, on the barren banks of the Dead Sea. They say the find proves the people living here two millennia ago were Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect that left Jerusalem to seek proximity to God in the desert.
Qumran and its environs have already yielded many treasures: the remains of a settlement with an aqueduct and ritual baths, ancient sandals and pottery, and the Dead Sea Scrolls, perhaps the greatest archaeological find of the 20th Century.
The scrolls, which include fragments of the books of the Old Testament and treatises on communal living and apocalyptic war, have shed important light on Judaism and the origins of Christianity.
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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: deadseascrolls; epigraphyandlanguage; essenes; godsgravesglyphs; qumran; thenewrecord; wwjdefacate; wwjdefecate
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posted on
01/04/2007 8:28:52 AM PST
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SJackson
To: SJackson
There's no sects in toilets.........
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01/04/2007 8:29:55 AM PST
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Red Badger
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To: Red Badger
In college, this is called "Crapper 101" isn't it?
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01/04/2007 8:31:17 AM PST
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Buried Feces Offer Clues About Authors of Dead Sea Scrolls
QUMRAN, West Bank The discovery of a 2,000-year-old toilet at one of the world's most important archaeological sites is focusing renewed interest on a question that has preoccupied scholars for more than half a century: Who lived at Qumran?
In a new study, three researchers say they have discovered the outdoor latrine used by the ancient residents of Qumran, on the barren banks of the Dead Sea.
They say the find proves the people living here two millennia ago were Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect that left Jerusalem to seek proximity to God in the desert.
Qumran and its environs have already yielded many treasures: the remains of a settlement with an aqueduct and ritual baths, ancient sandals and pottery, and perhaps the greatest archaeological find of the 20th century: the Dead Sea Scrolls.
Continued at Fox link
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posted on
01/04/2007 8:32:50 AM PST
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SJackson
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To: SJackson
Did they find any ancient magazines by the toilet?
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01/04/2007 8:36:52 AM PST
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Perdogg
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To: SJackson
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01/04/2007 8:37:50 AM PST
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mikrofon
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To: SunkenCiv; Alouette
To: SJackson
If I'm not mistaken, Jesus was an Essene.
To: SJackson
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01/04/2007 8:52:58 AM PST
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trisham
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To: Perdogg
Did they find any ancient magazines by the toilet? What do you think the scrolls were for?
To: Perdogg
Did they find any ancient magazines by the toilet? No, just a copy of Uncle John's Bathroom Reader, Vol. 1.
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01/04/2007 8:56:06 AM PST
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xJones
To: Perdogg; Thinkin' Gal
Did they find any ancient magazines by the toilet?Maybe they were next to the Dead Sea toilet paper scrolls.
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01/04/2007 9:53:07 AM PST
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01/04/2007 10:42:15 AM PST
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To: SJackson
I wonder if the lid was down.
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Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution, because there are four earlier topics (at least). Perhaps less obviously, no bathtub was found anywhere in or near the site. :')
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01/04/2007 10:45:19 AM PST
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To: Red Badger
Maybe Shi'ites who wandered from elsewhere..
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posted on
01/04/2007 10:53:14 AM PST
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sheik yerbouty
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To: SJackson; Alouette
You know, I've always wondered about toilet facilities in Jerusalem in the days of the Temple. Since Jerusalem represented
Machane-Yisra'el (the encampment of Israel), did one have to leave the city every time one needed to relieve himself? I mean, they didn't have modern sewage facilities back then and . . .
. . . Am I making any sense, people?
To: SJackson
"
They say the find proves the people living here two millennia ago were Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect that left Jerusalem..."
Let's see what Eusebius had to say about the books later attributed to Paul.
Eusebius wrote, in his Ecclesiastical History (History of the Christian Church), Book II, CHAPTER XVII of Philo's Account of the Ascetics of Egypt
"
But it is highly probable that the works of the ancients, which he says they [the Essenes] had, were the Gospels and the writings of the apostles, and probably some expositions of the ancient prophets, such as are contained in the Epistle to the Hebrews, and in many others of Paul's Epistles."
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2501.htm
And BTW, was the crapper away from the Essene's dwellings or among them? If it was very close to them, then it's understandable as to why they no longer lived in Jerusalem.
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01/04/2007 2:22:52 PM PST
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familyop
("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
To: SJackson
"
They say the find proves the people living here two millennia ago were Essenes, an ascetic Jewish sect that left Jerusalem..."
Let's see what Eusebius (one of the greatest fathers of Christianity according to Christians) had to say about the books later attributed to Paul.
Eusebius wrote, in his Ecclesiastical History (History of the Christian Church), Book II, CHAPTER XVII of Philo's Account of the Ascetics of Egypt
"
But it is highly probable that the works of the ancients, which he says they [the Essenes] had, were the Gospels and the writings of the apostles, and probably some expositions of the ancient prophets, such as are contained in the Epistle to the Hebrews, and in many others of Paul's Epistles."
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/2501.htm
And BTW, was the crapper away from the Essene's dwellings or among them? If it was very close to them, then it's understandable as to why they no longer lived in Jerusalem.
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01/04/2007 2:23:43 PM PST
by
familyop
("G-d is on our side because he hates the Yanks." --St. Tuco, in the "Good, the Bad, and the Ugly")
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