(Read
Bill Heard's statement provided to NewsChannel 5.)
Oughta be good for at least 100 replies.
Soooo. Whaddya YOU think? Should the dealer have taken back the truck? Is this a criminal case? Civil case?
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To: Responsibility2nd
Criminal! They both signed the deal. If the dealer is doing this many times, they should be put out of business.
2 posted on
07/31/2006 5:15:05 PM PDT by
bboop
(Stealth Tutor)
To: Responsibility2nd
Criminal case. The dealership no longer owned the truck. They stole it.
To: Responsibility2nd
Once the deal was signed... the dealer loses. period.
4 posted on
07/31/2006 5:17:36 PM PDT by
lumber1
(It is not what you do now, but what they will do later with what you've "done now" that matters.)
To: Responsibility2nd
I made a mistake and didn't like the deal they offered me because it was TOOO much so I go up to the dealership and just take the vehicle I want. Fair is fair. If a bill of sale don't mean nuthin' why pay them anything.
5 posted on
07/31/2006 5:17:36 PM PDT by
BipolarBob
(Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I looked in my rearview mirror.)
To: Responsibility2nd
the bad pub alone is gonna kill this clown as it should..sue the hell out of him..if he has signed papers and they took the truck.. is that not grand theft auto?
6 posted on
07/31/2006 5:17:40 PM PDT by
skaterboy
To: Responsibility2nd
Ah, you hear about this sort of thing all the time with Toyota, Nissan and Mazda dealers!
(What my Buy America Even If It's Wrong friend would say; otherwise he's
a really great guy)
7 posted on
07/31/2006 5:18:17 PM PDT by
VOA
To: Responsibility2nd
It's a Civil Case, I have a business, If I make a mistake like that I live with it. This Guy has a great case IMHO, All I can say for the Dealership it better not be a Jury Trial.
8 posted on
07/31/2006 5:18:43 PM PDT by
cmsgop
( President Mahmud Ahmadinejad Must Purify Himself in The Waters of Lake Minnetonka)
To: Responsibility2nd
If it had been the other way around (customer on losing end) the dealership would have told him to go to hell.
They sure do squeal like a pig when the tables are turned on them.
If it's as big a dealership as they say, they've already lost at least $10,000 in bad publicity/public relations.
If they want to stay in business they had better play nice with the guy, otherwise they're doomed.
9 posted on
07/31/2006 5:18:52 PM PDT by
capt. norm
(Bumper Sticker: Honk if you've never seen an Uzi shoot from a car window.)
To: Responsibility2nd
On the face of it, rather damning:
Kathleen Calligan says the Better Business Bureau has received literally hundreds and hundreds of similar complaints about the Bill Heard dealership -- more complaints by far than any other auto dealer in all of Middle Tennessee.
Bill Heard + Better Business Bureau
11 posted on
07/31/2006 5:20:01 PM PDT by
dighton
To: Responsibility2nd
There isn't much he can do but go to civil court since the DA is gutless.
On perhaps a different note, a couple of years ago a Fresno County Sheriff's Sergeant sued a local Ford dealer, and Ford Motor Company over a lemon car. The dealer settled for 100,000 dollars and the Sgt. got a judgment against the Ford Motor Company for 10 Million dollars. Ford appealed the verdict, and it is probably still pending. I would hope that the buyer and his attorney in this case can get records of past dealings and sales, and prove that this is a consistent pattern by the dealer. If so, it should prove successful against the dealer in a lawsuit. We'll see.
15 posted on
07/31/2006 5:22:30 PM PDT by
Enterprise
(Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
To: Responsibility2nd; Victoria Delsoul
17 posted on
07/31/2006 5:22:44 PM PDT by
HitmanLV
("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
To: Responsibility2nd
"I'm a faithful follower of Brother John Birch
And I belong to the Antioch Baptist Church.
And I aint even got a garage, you can call home and ask my wife!"
Same Antioch??
18 posted on
07/31/2006 5:26:20 PM PDT by
ButThreeLeftsDo
(Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
To: Responsibility2nd
Seems to me he needs to sue the dealership in civil court to enforce his contract of sale and get the truck back. Assuming he wins that suit, which he should, the court will have established that he did, in fact, own the truck, at which point he should insist that the dealership employees and management who ordered the "repossession" be criminally charged with the truck's theft, and then go back to civil court and sue them for the intentional tort of trespass to chattel, with the various punitive damages such a suit can entail. It won't run the dealership out of business, but he'll be ablet to buy a new truck a few times over, and the thugs who tried to steal it back will think twice before they do it again.
As long as the deal wasn't grossly unreasonable (like selling him the car for $1), I don't see how the sale wouldn't be enforceable. I don't see how a trade-in plus $8,100 cash would seem blatantly unreasonable for a used Chevy.
19 posted on
07/31/2006 5:26:30 PM PDT by
Turbopilot
(iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
To: Responsibility2nd
Just to throw something else into the mix. Post dated checks are not legal.
To: Responsibility2nd
25 posted on
07/31/2006 5:30:08 PM PDT by
LongElegantLegs
(You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
To: Responsibility2nd
Sounds like the salesman made a mistake and wrote the contract for 10 grand less than what the dealership wanted. If the customer gave the dealership a post dated check that was the loophole they were looking for. If a cashiers check was involved then the car dealership has to accept the deal.
33 posted on
07/31/2006 5:40:23 PM PDT by
4yearlurker
(12th district Freeper.)
To: Responsibility2nd
Maybe the 8,100,00 was the down payment. Now that I read the story again there could have been an error in the writing of the contract and the customer is trying to take advantage of that. Still,the BBB says hundreds of complaints. Personally I HATE the crap you have to go through when you buy a new/used car from a dealership.
38 posted on
07/31/2006 5:54:44 PM PDT by
4yearlurker
(12th district Freeper.)
To: Responsibility2nd
Sounds like a scam to me.
39 posted on
07/31/2006 5:58:52 PM PDT by
SouthTexas
(Kim Jong is ILL, VERY ILL)
To: Responsibility2nd
We had a case where a decimal was put in the wrong spot and an item that normally went for $24.98 a pack was sold for $0.2498. We corrected our error two days later and swallowed the loss. It wasn't the customers fault.
To do otherwise is very bad publicity and very bad customer relations.
40 posted on
07/31/2006 6:02:38 PM PDT by
Harmless Teddy Bear
(A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
To: Responsibility2nd
"They inadvertently sold the vehicle at a lower cost than what they should have," Paris says. I don't know how many items I "inadvertently" bought at a higher cost than I should have and was never given "Oops..." as a viable escape.
I see the key in the wording, they sold the vehicle at a "lower cost" instead of a "lower price". The "cost" means the dealer didn't make a profit on it.
45 posted on
07/31/2006 6:21:00 PM PDT by
infidel29
("36 years old, 5 years of college, 23 years in the work force, considerable trivial knowledge.")
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