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Patsy Ramsey, mother of JonBenet dies of ovarian cancer
Fox News | June 24, 2006 | Brytani

Posted on 06/24/2006 7:35:36 AM PDT by Brytani

According to Fox News, Patsy Ramsey, mother of Jonbenet Ramsey has passed away from ovarian cancer.


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To: CaptainK

You might like this:

http://www.statementanalysis.com/ramseynote/


501 posted on 06/25/2006 10:48:51 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Your problem is that you distrust the police. I distrust parents who don't seem to want to answer questions or give much access to the son. If you think a 9 year old is incapable of murder, you are wrong. There are plenty of them around the world and some in this country. All I said was that I believe it was the son, and you call it ridiculous and it took you quite a few days to come down from whatever you were on to strike back at what I said. Grow up.


502 posted on 06/25/2006 10:52:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

At the same time the ramsom note is so extremely bizarre that it would be impossible to believe that it was a botched kidnapping. The note is the most telling part of this crime.


503 posted on 06/25/2006 11:04:31 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: MAWG

" Mother walked in on ....... went into an uncontrollable rage that resulted in a fatal injury to the child."

"Per the Autopsy Report, Death was due to asphyxia, specifically a garot tied around her neck and twisted from behind. She was alive when strangled, we know this because of the petechial hemorrahages to the eyes. The fracture to her skull was POST MORTEM, after she was strangled. It did not cause her death. It was not discovered, per the Autopsy Report, until after her skull cap was removed. There was no evidence of external bleeding from this injury. I believe it was a coup des gras delivered by the killer for obvious reasons. There was nothing accidental about this horrible death."

Perhaps the garot was used to stop the blood loss from the head wound. Only 1 - 1/2 teaspoons of blood loss occured.

Think through this scenario and see if it makes sense:

Patsy wakes up in the middle of the night and John is not in bed. She wanders through the house, and notices JonBenet is not in her bed either. She becomes frightened and panicked and arms herself with a heavy object, like a golf club, pry bar, fire poker, (whatever)and wanders through the house looking for John and her daughter.

She walks through the basement and hears something, and by this time her adreniline levels are very elevated. She walks into the wine celler and witnesses John molesting JonBenet, and in a fury of anger and passion swings the object she armed herself with at both of them while she screams loudly. The object strikes the child, on the skull and she is knocked unconcious with a severe head wound. John realizes there's gonna be a lot of blood, and convinces Patsy that they must cover it up, and stop the bleeding. The garot cuts the blood flow to the head, and is the true cause of death, but the head injury would have eventually also led to death, and would expose exactly what happened.

This is pure conjucture, speculation and theory, yet ties everything together logically - including the 'Ransom Note', which was probably written with Patsy's left hand to appear not be be hers. Is there a link to the actual letter?


504 posted on 06/25/2006 11:05:47 AM PDT by goron
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To: goron

It makes sense to me, provided that John was able to calm Patsy quickly enough and devise the garot "plan" with such dispatch as to slow the bleeding from the head wound to a very small amount.

Quite honestly, that seems like it would take more time than the minimal loss of blood from the head wound would allow.


505 posted on 06/25/2006 11:26:05 AM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: goron

Autopsy does not support this theory. I just dont agree with this theory.


506 posted on 06/25/2006 11:48:22 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: krunkygirl

There was no blood loss from the " head wound." Hit with a blunted object that fractured the skull horribly, see autopsy report, but did not lacerate the scalp. Coroner was unaware of the fracture until he removed the skull cap during autopsy.Under the heading REMAINDER OF EXTERNAL EXAMINATION it states clearly " No scalp trauma is identified." She was strangled first and hit in the head last. Autopsy protocol is quite clear on this.

You're envy/hatred of the Ramseys is very apparent and it is clouding your judgement. IMO.


507 posted on 06/25/2006 11:55:22 AM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: MAWG

Colonel Mustard and Professor Plum were involved, that's all I'm at liberty to say.


508 posted on 06/25/2006 11:56:16 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: MAWG

"Autopsy does not support this theory. I just dont agree with this theory."

The blow to the head would not stop the heart, or breathing as those functions are controlled at the base of the brain, I believe. The 'garot' was a broken paint brush, like an artists brush, not the kind you paint walls with, and could have been the dog leash, or just laying around in the basement. Don't read too much into the garot, as if it is some advanced technology that required assembly in a foreign sweatshop. It was there, and if the theory is correct, was basically used to cover up the true nature of the 'accident', and may have been looked at by the Ramseys as an act of mercy. The taser thing to me also seems staged, like the changing of the PJs, the washed red turtleneck that was in the bathroom sink, blue towel fibers on the body suggesting 'cleaning up' and the staging of the bondage-like tieing of the wrists.

The ransom note seems to have been written by Patsy, so I'm only theorizing about what would cause these bizarre series of staged anomolies.


I stumbled on some good discussion here:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-22887


509 posted on 06/25/2006 12:01:30 PM PDT by goron
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To: durasell

Works for me. You have to go where the evidence takes you, not the other way around. I believe this case will be solved. The sole reason the GJ did not return an indictment is because of the DNA found in her underwear. It is a strong, clear, male profile and does not match John or Burke.


510 posted on 06/25/2006 12:03:12 PM PDT by MAWG (In the shadows, on permanent ambush duty.)
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To: MAWG

They screwed up the crime scene, screwed up the investigation, and didn't really want a messy/ugly, very public trial. Everybody gets to go on about their lives, except, of course, the kid.


511 posted on 06/25/2006 12:05:09 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: BunnySlippers

WOW!! I had NEVER read the entire message and the analysis......YIKES!!! VERY STRONGLY leans towards the Ramsey's as the killers!! Just the phrase "and hence" is enough to raise eyebrows!! Plus the smiles on their faces thru the whole ordeal was CREEPY!!


512 posted on 06/25/2006 12:06:01 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: MAWG

"You're envy/hatred of the Ramseys is very apparent and it is clouding your judgement. IMO."

I don't hate or envy anyone, but your quickness to smear anyone who believes this could be a covered up accident by the Ramsey family is bizarre. Its a very disturbing and sad story, and drawing conclusions based on the weirdness of the evidence is not class envy - as you want seem to want it to be.


513 posted on 06/25/2006 12:07:02 PM PDT by goron
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To: Gaffer; null and void; Inspectorette; LittleMoe; i_dont_chat
It was the son..

I sorta figured it was her son.

I always thought it was JonBenet's older brother

I think it was her son.

I think their son, Burke, accidentally choked Jon Bonet to death.

The kid was 9 years old! You honestly think a 9-year-old kid knew how to apply a garotte?!!! And did he also write the ransom letter?!!

514 posted on 06/25/2006 12:31:39 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (The enemy never sleeps...)
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To: MAWG

So, where has the phsycotic killed again?? You said he had a history of killing...where is it?? The police have the DNA and it has matched anyone...right? A STRANGER who kills like this would kill and kill AGAIN!!


515 posted on 06/25/2006 12:40:51 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: TAdams8591

Hi!! I never heard of a business partner...who was it and what did the Ramsey's say about him, if anything.


516 posted on 06/25/2006 12:42:44 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: goron
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-22887 "Darnay Hoffman's handwriting experts concluded that whoever wrote the captions in BR's photo album also wrote the ransom note."
517 posted on 06/25/2006 12:47:08 PM PDT by goron
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To: MAWG

You are wrong. I neither envy (who would?) nor hate (don't even know them--my detached perspective is simply that: my personal point of view) the Ramseys.

I think it is pretty amazing that you draw your conclusions on the few comments I have posted...


518 posted on 06/25/2006 12:50:01 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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To: Suzy Quzy

He was a business associate (rival). Skim through some of the posts from the beginning of this thread. They contain more precise information which better explains it.


519 posted on 06/25/2006 1:00:49 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Ann Coulter = The Conservative Diva)
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To: Rte66

Where did you find something to compare her handwriting?


520 posted on 06/25/2006 1:03:05 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kaboom"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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