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Vanity of vanities, all is vanity, sayeth Qohotoleth... | 01 April 2005 | Poohbah

Posted on 04/01/2005 4:26:00 PM PST by Poohbah

First, this is NOT an April Fool's joke.

I am leaving Free Republic.

Over the past two years, civility and thoughtful discourse has vanished from this site, replaced with demands for ideological conformity that are straight out of Stalinist Russia or China's Great Cultural Revolution, and unrelenting uncivility if said conformance is not forthcoming. This trend began with the California recall election, where certain posters were allowed to flame the living beejezus out of those who didn't wholeheartedly support Tom McClintock, or thought that he wasn't running a campaign capable of winning. It extended into the Keyes campaign last year, where any critique of Keyes' campaign strategy was shrilly flamed, despite the obviously flawed execution of his campaign.

(Aside: one person who flamed me during the Keyes mess later said that he hadn't intended to start a fight with his remarks that accused me of homosexuality, pedophilia, and other evils; I was instantly reminded of the time I had to bail one of my Marines out of the local lockup. "Honest, Sarge," this Marine told me, "I didn't mean to start a fight when I called that Army Ranger a faggot." My response was not [and still isn't] suitable for public consumption.)

Since then, the Terri Schiavo case has pushed FR over the edge. We had posts calling for people to ensure that "accidents" to befall Schiavo and Judge Greer. We had posts praying that Iran would soon develop nuclear weapons, so that they could destroy the United States. And until the FBI started making arrests, those posts were allowed to stay up, completely abnegating Free Republic's standards.

We had people on both sides of the issue point out that the Schindlers were associating with some people of extremely low character, and that our uncritical embrace of these parties would not rebound to our favor. Rather reasonable attitudes to take, actually; but the loudest of the loud were in no mood to think.

My personal favorite was the following exchange:


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To: Old Professer
Is being a christian identity sympathizer, a white supremicist, a neo-nazi, a racist or an anti-semite illegal activities in themselves?

The issue is not legality, but public opinion. Which will not be helped in this case if the pro-Terry side becomes associated in the media with Christian Identity, white supremicists, neo-nazis, racists and/or anti-semites.

212 posted on 03/17/2005 11:05:13 AM PST by malakhi
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To: malakhi
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Terri's fight being associated with Christianity. That is unless someone is a radical leftist.
229 posted on 03/17/2005 12:02:29 PM PST by Diva Betsy Ross
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Diva Betsy Ross made a valiant attempt to...ahem...whitewash Christian Identity, but it didn't work.

To top things off, we had people embracing as some sort of conservative icon, to the extent of posting a fundraising link.

I always thought that conservatism valued thinking over feeling, careful contemplation of facts over wild-eyed repetition of every damn rumor to come down the pipe, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. For a while, Free Republic met those criteria in spades.

Those days are long gone, and I have serious doubt as to whether or not they're coming back.

I know that many of the usual suspects will cheer this on, as their longtime nemesis is leaving them the field.

Be careful what you wish for; you are in the process of getting it. You may succeed in driving the folks who disagree with you from the site; but you will end up being just another collection of shrill voices in Bedlam. When everything is an over-the-top scream, no one will be heard.

Farewell.


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To: Politicalmom
Actually, he said that no other "facts" mattered.

Gotta have the quotes. :)

1,241 posted on 04/01/2005 9:51:36 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: eureka!

This is no surprise after this last month of vile, insane name calling by the Schindlerista. DU is little worse for this kind of behavior it is sickening and sad to see Conservativisms most important site sink to the level that it has due to their ridiculous behavior.

Any voice of reason has been greeted with name calling and viperation far beyond anything this site has seen. If this mentality continues the site will be destroyed and conservativism will suffer a huge defeat. The RATmedia's greatest enemy has been turned into a Ship of Fools.


1,242 posted on 04/01/2005 9:52:05 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: sinkspur

Askel5 is worth lusting after? Why didn't anyone tell me!


1,243 posted on 04/01/2005 9:52:29 PM PST by thoughtomator (Fight terror - strangle a caribou!)
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To: durasell

LOL!! Did you see someone just posted to #15 on the thread -- boy do they have a way to go to get to all of us.


1,244 posted on 04/01/2005 9:52:33 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: thoughtomator

No,they act like the stinking COMMIES they are. And I have been aware of ALL their tactics for a very long time.


1,245 posted on 04/01/2005 9:52:48 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mo1
***I for one will not be giving up on Republican Party, Our President .. NOR will I give up on Free Republic***

I second that although I was tempted to drop out when the fury began peaking- it was out of control imo.

1,246 posted on 04/01/2005 9:52:49 PM PST by daybreakcoming ("Courage is being scared to death -- and saddling up anyway." - John Wayne)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
This is no surprise after this last month of vile, insane name calling by the Schindlerista.

I suppose the irony is completely lost on you, eh?

1,247 posted on 04/01/2005 9:53:15 PM PST by thoughtomator (Fight terror - strangle a caribou!)
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To: xsmommy
and it turns out that no one's ball is the end all and be all to FR.

What???? I thought I was. :)
(although I'd never opus, outside of as a April fools joke I did once)

1,248 posted on 04/01/2005 9:53:23 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: nopardons
sure
1,249 posted on 04/01/2005 9:53:53 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Howlin
Actually, I think I did sign up in the '90s but I had dial-up, the board seemed slow & I forgot my password (and username) & usenet seemed more practical.

When I finally did get broadband, I began checking FR again & during the 2000 elections it became my main source of news. I saw myself as a consumer of its content, however, rather than provider.

FR is not hard to use but it does require some learning and ruts can be hard to break. Also, for some reason I thought there seemed less anonymity (just perception) than what I was used to.

I completely forgot what caused me to start posting when I did.

Anyway FR is a wonderful group, Freepers are wonderful people and I regret waiting.

1,250 posted on 04/01/2005 9:53:58 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Howlin

By Todd,or someone else?


1,251 posted on 04/01/2005 9:54:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: thoughtomator

LOL!! That made me burst out laughing. Knew something was missing! :)


1,252 posted on 04/01/2005 9:54:10 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom

The fleet of fingers will trump the slow of mind any day...


1,253 posted on 04/01/2005 9:54:11 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: rwfromkansas

You believe Terri Shiavo wanted to die???

And the question that inevitably follows:

You believe people who want to die should be "helped" by being "euthanized"???


1,254 posted on 04/01/2005 9:54:19 PM PST by k2blader (The state sanctioned murder of Terri Shiavo happened on the Republicans' watch.)
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To: nopardons

Because of this forum I have been forced to:

buy a computer

learn to use a computer

learn to type

My wife typed my first posts for me


1,255 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:09 PM PST by woofie (Im here again I just dont know where I am)
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To: PhiKapMom; eddie willers
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1,256 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:14 PM PST by Howlin
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To: daybreakcoming
it was out of control imo.

Agree ... it was out of line and uncalled for

And it will get them no where fast

1,257 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:21 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Pukin Dog

Hey Pukin Dog..long time no see..Welcome back!


1,258 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:30 PM PST by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: Howlin

So you support euthanasia.


1,259 posted on 04/01/2005 9:55:45 PM PST by k2blader (The state sanctioned murder of Terri Shiavo happened on the Republicans' watch.)
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To: rwfromkansas; olde north church
The extremists, at least in my mind, were the ones saying Bush was Hitler etc. or that America was becoming Nazi Germany.

George W. Bush is definitely no Hitler.

But the idea that America "is becoming" Nazi Germany is ludicrous only because it's been over a generation now since the Sexual Revolution declared war on the Family and the Summer of Love diverted the attention of Americans from the Congress where the blueprints of the Biological Revolution were finally blossoming and bearing strange fruit.

The fact of the matter is that the Third Reich or Nationalist Socialism was nothing more than "applied biology," a term coined by Fritz Lenz and confirmed when Rudolph Hess asserted as much.

If you've been in a coma the past couple years, I'm happy to LINK ONCE AGAIN a thread in which a few of the Congressional Record excerpts regarding this nation's "biological revolution" appear.

"If the birth rate does not go back down, the death rate MUST go up."

"The greatest threat to the human race is human procreation."

"The real success of contraception was divesting sex from procreation. The next step, using the techniques we now use on cattle, will be to have couples enjoy sex in marriage but purchase more perfect Genetic Quality from clinics."

"If it was moral for government to intervene to save lives, is it not moral for government to intervene to depopulate lives?"

"Perhaps some people simply should not be allowed to procreate."

"Our well-intentioned programs of the past have unfortunately resulted in a Down Breeding of this nation."

"EDUCATION IS KEY ... it is critical to provide Non-Judgmental data so that the masses can take their own Remedial action."

"It would be most unfortunate for government to be forced into the position of enacting these controls as a result of public indifference and ignorance."


Do these sound like the statements of Nazis? Then why do we find them in our own Congressional Record alongside a comprehensive plan for "environmentalism"?

What's most interesting to me is that, to this day, we can have flim-flam features on chasing "anti-Semite" Nazi war criminals when the WORST OF THE LOT -- Mengele's mentor, in fact, were a part of the German braintrust brought over to this nation to oversee our biology texts and join our most influential agencies.

As a Kansan, perhaps you are familiar with the "unified concepts" theory of biology. If not, you should be.

Not only does the toxic spill of eugenics poison federal family planning and population control systems, even federally funded genetic research, but now a Huxleyan eugenic vision forms the theoretical model of the National Science Education Standards.

Both the national and a modified Kansas version approach science as "unified concepts"--unified by natural selection, while emphasizing scarcity, heredity and population genetics.

The outline of the NSES' "unified concepts," teaches a point-of-view, a philosophy of science developed by groups, some of which have long histories of leadership by and affiliation with members of the American Eugenics Society. In fact, the standards expressly state that they de-emphasize facts, and instead stress abstract concepts.

And what was the Huxleyan vision? (And why is it that evols perpetually turn to rabid dogs where Christianity is concerned?)


Huxley wrote,

"Evolution--or to spell it out, the idea of evolutionary process--is the most powerful and the most comprehensive idea that has ever arisen on earth. Above all, it unifies our knowledge and our thought . . . Thus the evolutionary idea must provide the main unifying approach for a humanist educational system, and evolutionary biology could and should become a central or key subject in its curriculum."
Huxley had been alarmed about a decline in evolutionary studies, "in part because it undermined his evolutionary humanism and his progressive worldview."

To eugenicists, "progressive" means "evolutionary progress." Huxley's "unification" effort was "to help extend and legitimate both evolution and biology." (20) To Huxley, that meant even replacing religion:
I believe that an equally drastic reorganization of our pattern of religious thought is now becoming necessary--from a God-centered to an evolution-centered pattern. Today the God hypothesis has ceased to be scientifically tenable, has lost its explanatory value and is becoming an intellectual and moral burden on our thought. It no longer convinces or comforts, and its abandonment often brings a deep sense of relief . . . once our relief at jettisoning an outdated piece of ideological furniture is over, we must construct something to take its place.


Does any of this appear at all timely to you? It ought to.

I cannot suggest strongly enough that you understand well and understand right now that the key players of the "applied biology" to which Rudolph Hess referred ended up in this nation, working alongside many Americans (and English) who had studied eugenics with them in Germany and the Soviet Union.

The entire article is linked within, of course, but anyone who thinks for a moment that a pro-lifer is out of bounds for calling a Nazi a Nazi when no less than Rudolph Hess has confirmed for all that National Socialism was "applied biology" had best read this thread: The Evolution of Genocide.

It's been nearly 40 years since our Congressional Record began to sound EXACTLY like the Nazi scientists we paperclipped into the country and who were too busy winning awards, writing books, giving speeches and overseeing the standards of our biology textbooks to be hounded by the ADL or featured as Proud Speakers at the local Holocaust Museum.

I stand ready to back up ANYONE who accuses the Republican Party of plotting a "Biological Revolution" per the dictums of Nazi "applied biology." I've done my homework, I've posted it already, even. The facts are in my favor.

You can read the threads and see for yourself.

Or you can just stick your head in the sand and reply: "It can't happen here."

And if you, like so many others lacking any evidence whatsoever of a "change of heart", in the GOP leadership who made the statements I paraphrased and quoted above, want to kid yourself that this is simply an embarassing past on the part of the GOP ... I have one more question for you courtesy of the GOP Congress during the "Clinton" regime:

To What Uses Will Federal Database of 'Defective Children' Be Put?

After watching the State starve Terri Schindler to death the past two weeks -- specifically ordering she not have a sip of water, even, to relieve her agonies -- I suggest you think real long and hard about what the GOP was up to when they voted to dangle money in front of the States in exchange for data collection on Defectives.

"It can't happen here ..."

Baby, it already IS.


1,260 posted on 04/01/2005 9:56:00 PM PST by Askel5 († Theresa Marie Schindler, Martyr for the Gospel of Life, pray for us †)
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