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To: paudio

No, no and no. I know this is not the best way of doing this but I don't have anyone to talk to. The people I could talk to I won't out of shame. At least no one here knows who I am.


37 posted on 12/20/2004 6:52:15 AM PST by kerouacbal ("Those who give up liberty for safety deserve neither liberty - nor safety (Ben Franklin, 1759).")
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To: kerouacbal
If you are serious and are truly wanting advice then you need to post more in depth.

Do you have a job? Are you supporting your family?

As far as the things to do, ask your wife to remind you and do it when she reminds you. Treat your wife with the respect that you want for yourself and don't sell yourself short.

63 posted on 12/20/2004 6:57:08 AM PST by tiki (Won one against the Flipper)
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To: kerouacbal

I would consider getting counselling (both of you) and perhaps, as others have indicated, get tested for ADD. I believe my son has ADD. He has a hard time keeping a good job and is quite overwhelmed by the responsibilities of raising his three sons by himself. It's not easy for people with ADD. There are places you can go for help with this. Tell your doctor and ask him to recommend a place where you can be trusted. Your child deserves two good parents. I wish you the very best!


66 posted on 12/20/2004 6:57:34 AM PST by Marysecretary (Thank you, Lord, for FOUR MORE YEARS!!!)
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To: kerouacbal

Try the chores list first. After all, that's her complaint, deal with the specific complaint.

If things don't improve after some weeks of doing the obvious, then you can look at other problems, if they exist.

PS. Do NOT game or FReep all the time, or even a couple of off-work hours. It really cuts into wife and child time--get away from the computer. You have a REAL wife, a REAL child, and a REAL life. Live it.

Married 34 years to the man of my dreams.


75 posted on 12/20/2004 6:59:33 AM PST by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: kerouacbal

Look, if you're on the level here, I feel for you. If you really don't have anyone to talk to, do as suggested in post 26 - call around and find a pastor to talk with you. You are not going to get the in-depth help you need here by posts from strangers. This is a serious life issue and you're only get to get superficial discussion here from people who really don't understand you, you wife or what's going on with you. Seriously.


81 posted on 12/20/2004 6:59:59 AM PST by .38sw
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To: kerouacbal

Check your private reply.


84 posted on 12/20/2004 7:00:34 AM PST by paudio (Four More Years..... Let's Use Them Wisely...)
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To: kerouacbal

I would bet that if your wife talks about divorce every day she has someone else in mind.


98 posted on 12/20/2004 7:03:42 AM PST by westmichman (Pray for global warming. (Thank GOD for the red states))
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To: kerouacbal

The only observation I can offer with my years of experience is this: As soon as the word "divorce" is put on the table, send her on her way and cover yourself as best you can with respect to your children and your continued relationship with them. She is going to go one way or another. If you have children, don't let her move away with them. I don't mean necessarily try to win custody (although 'joint custody' is more commonly granted these days than it used to be), but do all you can to insure that she doesn't move them out of state, for example.

The kids are the only thing that matter, but she's likely to take advantage of your weakened emotional state to take all she can and you'll fall for it thinking that it shows that you're 'growing up', etc., etc. And, that's fine when it comes to material things, but, once she gets the kids away and finds the man with whom she wants to create her "fantasy family", you can't get them back.

Trust me - it's a fight which is more than worth it, but it's long and it ain't easy.


113 posted on 12/20/2004 7:07:29 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: kerouacbal

Good luck with your marriage. I think your post is fine.


121 posted on 12/20/2004 7:08:37 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: kerouacbal
The people I could talk to I won't out of shame. At least no one here knows who I am.

And that is exactly the problem. Communication is very important in any human relationship. If you are unwilling to bear what shame you think will come from this, you will be unable to do what is needed to save this relationship. Marriage counselors are professionals who get people to communicate what they were originally unwilling to say to each other and to others who could help. When you sit down with her and explain to her that you are willing to do what it takes to save the marriage, what is her response? Do you get defensive? Is she willing to allow you to do what it takes? Being a man is recognizing where the needs of others are more important than your whims and taking the steps to meet their needs. The self-satisfaction in helping others and the natural rewards that humans extend when you have met their needs is all a real man needs in life. If you can't put the Playstation controller down or restrain yourself from constant play, you are not ready to be a man. From the lack of details about her specific complaints, I can't tell if she is being unreasonable or is feeling left out or has other plans and is trying to drive you away. Regardless, my above advice will be of help no matter the outcome. Stop playing and start listening - to words and the unspoken body language of life.

249 posted on 12/20/2004 8:05:32 AM PST by UseYourHead (Beware of the Rinos - McCain, Hagel, Lugar, and Specter)
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To: kerouacbal

I know who you are and I will tell everyone else if you don't get more specific about the problems;


358 posted on 12/20/2004 11:53:45 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Boycott Boycotts Warrior. If you aint buying call me!)
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