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I need help with marriage troubles (vanity)

Posted on 12/20/2004 6:41:03 AM PST by kerouacbal

I am 26 years old and have been married for 2 years. I am having trouble growing up and I am driving my wife nuts. It has gotten to the point that my wife talks about divorce almost every day. I want to work this out more then I every wanted anything but I can't seem to do it or do it quick enough. I can't seem to remember consistently to do every day things like take out the garbage make sure all the doors are locked and the heat is off at night (there is a lot more but won't get into it all). I am posting this here to try to get some advise on how to help my self grow up and start to take care of my wife and son better like a husband should. My parents are dead and I don't have a close family member or friend to get advise from. Could someone please help me.


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To: Mike Bates
Second that. (Am I the only one who has difficulty sorting out the serious from the unserious posts sometimes?)

True. So true. As of recently, it's hard sometimes to differentiate between the two.

441 posted on 12/20/2004 2:01:32 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: kerouacbal
What do the two of you do for fun? When is the last time you bought flowers or dinner? I've been married for 5 years and it HAS been the best of my life. I work 2 jobs and still find time to wash dishes, fix the house, fix the cars, mow the lawn, help with laundry, etc. (my wife is no lazy shlub either). Raising a kid is no easy task, at the end of the day she just might want a little attention, don't forget to talk to her. Good luck!

Josh
442 posted on 12/20/2004 2:05:04 PM PST by chapin2500
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To: papertyger
trouble is, a man can't lead a woman that refuses to follow.

And yet he is still called to, look how awful we as Christians are towards Christ. A husbands relationship with his wife is a reflection of Christ relationship with the church. If she refuses to be led you need to lovingly put your foot down (must have a solid scriptural footing) as the husband. Remember Hosea, Commanded to marry and love a whore, who was not faithful to him. This was an example of Gods love for Israel who in their way were unfaithful to God.

American women only follow if you're leading to where they wanted to go in the first place.

While the sin might be with an unfaithful and a poor wife Biblically the responsibility lies with the husband. As a husband your love should be so complete that it overwhelms her. Is this to say that you should not correct her? no you absolutely should and in doing so give scripture as the basis for your points.

As a husband you are to be a priest to your family, love them like Jesus loves the church, and are 100% responsible for the state of your house. It helps greatly if your wife wants to serve God because you can point to her Gods will for marriage.

When a wife refuses you should go to a pastor and get advice, I am *not* a marriage counselor, nor am I a very experienced husband (not married two years yet) so take my words with what restraint you feel is needed.

443 posted on 12/20/2004 2:38:25 PM PST by N3WBI3
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To: speed_addiction

ROFLMAO - Looks like some people I know ...


444 posted on 12/20/2004 2:44:30 PM PST by 11th_VA (BUILD THE MOAT, OR WE WON'T VOTE - 2008)
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To: N3WBI3
nor am I a very experienced husband

I would have never known ...

445 posted on 12/20/2004 2:48:00 PM PST by 11th_VA (BUILD THE MOAT, OR WE WON'T VOTE - 2008)
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To: MotleyGirl70
It's easy - and tempting sometimes - to just type in a flippant response, but then you have to wonder, if the poster is serious, how cruel that can be.

Oh,oh. Now I'm getting confused again.

446 posted on 12/20/2004 2:49:30 PM PST by Mike Bates (If you've been very, very good, Santa may give you. . . .)
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes
Ignore EVERYTHING she says when she nags you about the garbage and leaving socks on the floor. She doesn't have a leg to stand on. You work full time to pay the bills. She's a babysitter.

What a vicious SOB you are.............a stay at home mom is just a "babysitter" to you? There are very few men on this planet that have what it takes to be that kind of "babysitter."

447 posted on 12/20/2004 2:56:08 PM PST by Gabz (I relish being known as a thread killer.........)
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To: Max Combined
To give you an example of who much of an ass I am, today my wife and son are sick I forgot to bring out the garbage last night now my sick wife has to go outside in 20 degree weather to put the garbage out so the garage doesn't smell of my son's diapers all week.

Yeah, the guy is a jerk. Why can't he take out the garbage? Unless he is performing open heart surgery, I can't think of any reason why he can't take out the garbage knowing that his wife and son are sick and it's 20 degrees outside.

The guy is a tool. He knows what he has to do and he still doesn't do it.

448 posted on 12/20/2004 2:58:23 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.)
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To: redangus
It is my experience that when divorce happens one person is prepared while the other is totally blind-sided.

In a way you're right.........I had no preparations the night I walked out on my abusive ex-husband and spent the night sleeping in my office.

449 posted on 12/20/2004 3:05:02 PM PST by Gabz (I relish being known as a thread killer.........)
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To: 11th_VA

How would you have "never known" that he was not "a very experienced husband" had he not stated it? Is it somehow due to the fact that his entire post used the Bible as his reference point for marriage?


450 posted on 12/20/2004 3:06:54 PM PST by Chunga
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Yep, not a word about snow.
Not a word about anyone forcing anyone to do anything.

The crappy diapers could still be sitting in the garage, if the nag did not feel up to schelping the trash out to the curb.

This poor boy has be pu$$y whipped to within an inch of his life.
451 posted on 12/20/2004 3:11:28 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: Chunga
He hasn't said that his wife is making unreasonable demands.

The issue is not that she is making unreasonable demands. The issue is she's making demands unreasonably. Even though what she's asking for may seem trivial, she's talking divorce over not getting her way.

He has asked us to believe that he is in the wrong and that he is constantly screwing up... Why shouldn't we take this man at his word?

Because many of us have "been there, done that," been raised by single women, and/or recognize the manipulative camouflage of "I want you to help me clean, but I get to say what's clean enough."

Most men in our culture have been so thoroughly indoctrinated it never occurs to them to question female assumptions. Men have had "put the seat down" drilled into them so thoroughly, it seldom occurs to them to wonder why women aren't suppose to leave the seat up.

452 posted on 12/20/2004 3:13:08 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

"Why can't he take out the garbage?"

He can and does take out the garbage when he does not forget, at which point his harpy of a wife says she wants a divorce.


453 posted on 12/20/2004 3:13:24 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

"Why can't he take out the garbage?"

He could and would have, if his wife would have done her job and reminded him last night.


454 posted on 12/20/2004 3:22:17 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: kerouacbal

Pray together every night, and remember these words.

You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.
You are right honey, I am sorry.


455 posted on 12/20/2004 3:24:14 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: N3WBI3
Most Christians I know foolishly apply the husband's responsibility the way Ezekiel's contemporaries applied "the sins of the fathers."

I've been married for twenty years.

456 posted on 12/20/2004 3:24:16 PM PST by papertyger
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To: Max Combined
I wasn't aware that you were a board member. Congratulations.


457 posted on 12/20/2004 3:24:41 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Tanks.


458 posted on 12/20/2004 3:25:38 PM PST by Max Combined
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To: kerouacbal

Also, what stops you from making lists of what you forget every day?

If you leave a house, have a check off list:

Checked all the windows are closed and locked.
Car Keys.
Laundry water turned off.
Oven or range off.
Alarm on if need to.
Tell wife you are sorry again.

Leave.


459 posted on 12/20/2004 3:27:13 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

Would it have killed them if the garbage didn't get taken out?


460 posted on 12/20/2004 3:28:10 PM PST by papertyger
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