If Hillary Clinton Is a Presidential Nominee in 2008 Would Any "Red" States Turn "Blue"?

Nov. 5, 2004 | BIOCHEMKY

[BIOCHEMKY]

Now that the 2004 Presidential Election is over, it appears that the democrats are of the opinion that New York Senator Hillary Clinton is one of the best possibilities for being named the next democrat nominee for President in 2008.

What is your opinion on this?

I feel that John Edwards presently thinks he could mount a serious challenge for the democrat nomination for President, but I doubt that he would attract enough funding to fuel his challenge to the point that he would ultimately be successful.

I have also heard the name of Indiana democrat Senator Evan Bayh (and former very popular Indiana Governor) mentioned as a possible (more centrist) democrat nominee for President in 2008.

Currently, who do you think is the best nominee for President in 2008 within Republican ranks?

I have heard that former NYC Mayor Rudy Guiliani is seriously considering it. I have also heard that CA Governor Arnold Schwarzenager (sp?) would like to be the nominee and there are some who support an ammendment to the US Constitution to allow non-US born citizens to run for President in order to allow Arnold to run.

[nmh]

Rudy is a social LIBERAL like Arnold - we really don't WANT GAY marriage.

WHAT does it take for PEOPLE like you to GET IT?

Bush WON on a CONSERVATIVE PLATFORM!

STOP trying to make the Republican party the party od SOCIAL LIBBERALS. The people have spoken - THEY DON'T WANT this.

[truthseeker2]

Hey...you think Kerry/Edwards ran a nasty campaign, wait until you see Hillary. She will pull any trick she can.

[Always Right]

If Hillary was smart she would pick a southern Democrat like say Sen. Edwards to help her carry some southern states. Oh wait, that trick didn't work...

[Deaf Smith]

If Hillary is the answer, we sure asked a stupid question.

[donozark]

She'd be the best fundraiser Republicans ever had...Those one million Republicans that send an average $100 to RNC every year would double their contribution$. She is hated hereabouts. As popular as Jane Fonda.

[Bon mots]

Hillary didn't exactly knock 'em dead at the convention. She's a terrible speaker and comes across as an ass even to Dems.

She's best presented in a highly photoshopped image - one where you cannot hear her annoying monotone voice trying to talk like a man.
The REAL Hillary can't even appear onstage before firefighters and police officers - UNION MEN - in her own town without being mercilessly booed off the stage.

She's been over-rated and will never go farther than being an annoying New York Senator - just like Fat Ted Kennedy can't get out of Massachusetts.

[ken5050]

Assume Bayh enters the primaries. Then assume that Dean also gets back in..What do you think happens?..case closed.. The Dems just about ran Joe Lieberman off the primary stage..yet gave maximum exposure to that charlatan, Sharpton..The hard loony left controls the activists, and the cash, in short, the primary process...

[Wonderama]

eww, i just had a vision of HIlary doing tricks...it was not pretty.

[Mannaggia l'America]

Personally, I don't think you can predict at this point.

At this point in 2000 (or at least when it was determined Bush won), Who woulda thunk that we would experience 9/11, invade Afghanistan, and take out Saddam?

I don't think anyone was floating JFnK's name as the next RAT nominee back then (it was going to be Gore again or Lieberman if I recall).

No one knows what twists and turns will happen - 4 years in politics is a lifetime.

[Southack]

The front runners for the Dem Presidential candidate in 2008 are current Red State Democratic Party governors such as (Warner) in Virginia, NM (Richardson, a Clintonoid), and TN.

If the Dems can't flip a red state, then they can't win. The blue states don't count, except that they have to hold them to even be competitive.

[modest proposal]

me too :(

[Alberta's Child]

This always makes for an interesting discussion, but the problem is that we have no idea what the big issues will be in 2008. If we assume that the issues in 2008 are the same as they were leading up to this recent election, I'd offer the following for everyone's consumption:

1. Ohio. The Republicans had better have a game plan for winning 270 electoral votes without Ohio. The Buckeye State is one of the few Rust Belt states that still votes with the GOP on a regular basis, but I wouldn't count on that for long.

2. California. Believe it or not, California's impact on presidential elections will be far more decisive than most people realize. I'm not talking about the state itself, since it is so reliably Democrat that nobody will even contest it. California's biggest impact will be the residents of the state who have been (and will continue to do so) streaming out of their fool's paradise and flocking to other locales across the western U.S., including Phoenix, Seattle, Las Vegas, Denver, and Portland. Washington and Oregon may already be hopelessly lost to the Democrats . . . Arizona, Nevada, and Colorado will be even more closely contested than they have been in the last two elections.

3. Urbanization of the South. With the population centers of many southern states growing over time, the GOP will eventually have to face the demise of the "Solid South." North Carolina and Virginia in particular are becoming increasingly polluted with Yankee transplants, and will likely become similar to Florida in this regard at some point in the future.

I don't know how much of an impact these trends will have in 2008, but these are the critical battlegrounds as I see them in the next couple of presidential elections.

[Al Simmons]

MITT ROMNEY, THE GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSSETS IS PRETTY CONSERVATIVE, I BELIEVE.

[Mike Darancette]

FL & IA would be the only possible states Hillary could take away.

[Artemis Webb]

Hillary Clinton is probably the most dangerous person in America. The problem is she will surround herself with the best and most savvy advisers and do everything they say to the tee.

The memories of the American electorate is about as long as my little toe. Something to expect very soon from The Beast...lots of feminine outfits and makeup every day.

[shankbear]

NFW

[somerville]

I agree - Hilary would lose bigger than Skerry. Democrats ( I am still registered as one though I proudly voted for Bush) still don't get it. They are ruled by the Boston/NYC/Washington D.C corridor. They have no comprehension or curiousity about how people outside that area think. If the Dems want to win, they have to drop their arrogant, superior attitude towards anyone who thinks differently from themselves. But they are never going to think outside the box and hence they will lose.

Middle America will never ever go for amoral Hilary Clinton. You can bet on it.

[PMCarey]

4. She would rally their base unlike Kerry was able to.

Kerry didn't have to rally his base, Bush did that for him. Kerry did get 55 million votes afterall, which would be the winning total in any other election. This was truly the election that that silent majority spoke - and good thing too.

[Josh in PA]

Not any better than Kerry's was.. but that didn't stop Kerry from getting 54 million votes

[katana]

That "base rallying" thing would cut both ways. If the democrats think their feelings about Bush defined the word "hate" we might need a new dictonary to cover how most conservatives feel about Her Heinous.