Posted on 09/30/2004 10:40:34 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
Without reading the other aricles/posts, I believe President Bush got his head handed to him in the debate tonight. I can't believe how inarticulate he was and with such a smug look on his face while looking for his answerrs.
More importantly, I was disappointed that with Kerry's babblings about coalitions that Bush did not speak of sovereignty until his closing remarks. I was also disappointed that Bush did not tell Kerry there is no way of knowing the intricacies of the innner circle's state policies.
And why did it take Bush in his closing comments to finally make the point of keeping terrorism offshore? He eluded to that frequently in his remarks about being on the "offensesive", but didn't make it clear to the average American about taking the fight to them.
Also, I kept hearing "talking points" from Bush, which is usually the demcRATs M.O.
He just lost 5 points in his lead; there's a big difference between a leader and an articluate speaker without sustance...e.g. clinton. That said, JoeSixPak and Soccor Mom believe what sounds good. They have no concept of a leader who may not be schmoozer from a competenant manager who doens't talk well, but does the walk.
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Suggest you read more of the vanity posts and what has been said following the debate including by the media before you go off the deepend!
Probably a DU rat. Bet he just signed up today.
"W" da new King of Poker(Gave Kerry SPOTLIGHT & Shovel to bury himself). CONGRATS 'W' and Mr. Rove.
Posted on 09/30/2004 10:27:14 PM PDT by wvromania
Congrats go out to President Bush, Carl Rowe and the rest of the RNC.
While the press is fawning or Kerry's prosecutor style and possible win. The have overlooked the ROYAL FLUSH, President Bush just handed Carl Rowe and the RNC.
Bush played possum, dumb, etc. He kept repeating to was a man of conviction, and that Kerry was Flip Flopping, Flop Flipp'in.
The more Bush did this and the more Bush did not challenge him directly....Kerry got bold.
He kept talking about where he had been, what he had done., and what he would do.
He stepped in a big pile of COW Shi_! 1. Mistated the name of KGB building. 2. Said he would give IRAN Nuclear Fuel! 3. Flip Flopped on Iraq multiple times. 4. Lied about calling Bush a Liar. 5. Lied about Subway in NYC closing down. 6. Stated he would not go to war without GLOBAL blessing. 7. on and on!!
Carl Rowe has enough material to bury KERRY with WORDS out of his own mouth.
BUSH GAVE KERRY THE SPOTLIGHT AND SHOVEL AND KERRY BURIED HIMSELF.
I didn't see any smugness.
Please do not post commentary on the debates from your blog as breaking news. It's not. It's at best your op-ed.
Please remove this vanity post to front page or editorials section, it is NOT breaking news.
Uh, he's been here six years longer than you.
I am listening to the debate on C-span. YOu might want to watch it again. I thought President Bush did very well. PErhaps you were expecting Bush to clobber Kerry--You know all the arguments they made I had heard before except for the global test that Kerry mentioned.
And tho he had a what people call a smirk, he smiled when he started speaking. What was coming out of Kerrys mouth was pure garbage and I think I would purse my lips as well having to swallow such nastiness.
Before you go off the deep end, please ask yourself a simple question:
Can ANY human being on the planet explain John Kerry's "one" position on Iraq?
I think Bush has a nervous stuttering problem that is a physical problem I stated on another thread there must be a medicinal therapy to help him at times like tonight.
It appears the way you posted but I think it is just a glich he has as we all have gliches just some are more noticable than others.
I believe it is all straight in his mind but stuttering gets in the way.
I think you're completely off base. Bush's base is solid and he's not losing what he has. Flash polls have aleady shown that.
Secondly, the average American doesn't want to be finessed. He-of-the-manicured hand is definitely a finesser. Gore "won" the first debate, too -- but the people preferred Bush. That, in a nutshell, is how this is shaking out so far.
I didn't think Bush did as bad as some people think. He was more direct on some answers than Kerry. I'm still trying to figure out when Kerry will know when the soldiers in Iraq can start coming home. Bush was pretty clear on that. Also, who runs our country? The President or some global test. Would you sell Iran nuclear fuel? Not me.
I was disappointed too. But - it is a lot easier to be the attacker on that stage and not the one being attacked. Bush looked very tired and irritated. We so many times wonder why he won't fight back - now we see that he does get irritated but holds back for many reasons - not to give out-takes for the dems use, to make the most of his two minute answers, and to sift through all the lies/distortions and pick only those that can be answered with the restraints.
He probably should not have gone on the trip to see the hurricane destruction - but, gee, he is a working man - not like some senators we know.
How do you debate a liar though?
We could've just had Kerry debating Kerry. He's been all over the map. How does he explain it? You can't do that with Bush.
How does someone steadfast in his convictions come across as more coherent? Especially when he's debating an idiot?
Perhaps but longevity is not directly proportional to wisdom>
The analysis is shallow and ignores the myriad gaffes and terrible policy positions taken by Kerry in tonights debate.
With due respect, I also get to say what I saw. Bush was a weak debater and I just hope he is more forceful next time around.
My conclusion is that although Bush could have done much better in the debate, I don't expect to see a huge sea change against Bush.
Kerry smoothly spoke about having some completely insane plans, while Bush occasionally stumbled through the right answer.
The President can do better next time, and improve.
Yeah, that's be me, a DU distuptor.
This guy wrote an article this long about the debate without mentioning one salient point that will endure the night. Amazingly inept.
Think global test, providing Iran nuclear fuel, unilateral disaramament of our bunker busting program, no forward basing in Iraq, bilateral talks with Korea etc, etc.
11 posted on 10/01/2004 1:40:12 AM EDT by jwalsh07 (Ask not what you can do for your country, ask the country what it will do for you!)
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