Is The End Of The World As WeKnow It Right Around The Corner? (Lunacy or The Coverup Of History?)

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[Happy2BMe]

Keep us informed if you hear anything. I need to know with enough advance to dump some stocks and invest in generators and water purification system stocks.

:~)

[Riley]

If 'global dimming' is anything remotely resembling reality, the least likely explanation that I can think of is a debris cloud 'hanging around' between the Earth and the Sun. Any amateur astronomer with a solar filter and an occulting disk would be able to see obvious evidence of it. Except I guess for the fact that it is *so secret*. Hey, I have a telescope. Maybe I can get in on the government hush-money gravy train! LOL!

The Earth has been struck by large, fast-moving objects many times in the past. There is plenty of evidence to suggest it.

Where this completely falls apart for me is that *this guy* has the *inside track* on *secret government information* and that all sorts of scientific organizations are being paid to cover it up. Additionally, *parties unknown* are conspiring to silence him.

He says that he used to 'work for the government'. The inference that we're supposed to draw is that he worked for them in a capacity where he'd have been a 'trusted member of the conspiracy of silence', so some sort of research scientist or national security advisor or intelligence type, right? Well, I used to 'work for the government', too. I was a US Marine. I guess I'm in the club of knowing where all of the UFOs are reverse engineered then, huh. Guess I must've been threatened or paid off. Well, I have no income at the moment, to I'll take the dough, hold the threats, thanks. Sheesh.

I watch conspiracy theorists like this, and have for many years. They're full of Kerry, on the whole. I do think that interesting and secret things do happen from time to time. When they do, they're usually more along the lines of the underwater cable-tapping in the Sea of Okhotsk, the lovingly crafted pipeline explosion in Siberia that was the result of the KGB having stolen software that was creatively re-engineered, or some of the incredible stunts pulled by SOG in various parts of SE Asia in the 60s and early 70s.

Yeah, we'll probably eventually get smacked with a flying mountain from deep space that's doing 30 kilometers/sec. Betcha a nickel that it ain't on any of the dates that this guy has guessed.

[nuffsenuff]

Yeah, right!

You're probably one of the people trying to hide the truth!!!

(Yes, I am kidding.)

[ActionNewsBill]

Betcha a nickel that it ain't on any of the dates that this guy has guessed.

But how are you gonna pay up if this guy is right?

WE'LL ALL BE DEAD!!!!

LOL!

[Happy2BMe]

I'm sure you've heard these:

Jer 32:21 And hast brought forth thy people Israel out of the land of Egypt with signs, and with wonders, and with a strong hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with great terror;

Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.

Hint: Pharoah is a believer in great signs.

[JustPlainJoe]

Hey! that reminds me...I used to work for the government as well! Indeed I know all about their sneaky ways.

-The extra mail they made me carry when I wasn't looking...
-All the stuff they DIDN'T tell me! Like who REALLY shot Kennedy!
-The way they'd mess with the clocks to short us on our breaks!
-The asteroids that are about to SLAM into the earth, destroying all life as we know it.

The sneaks! This is an outrage! I DEMAND reparations when this calamity is over!

[ActionNewsBill]

Great! So, does this mean that if our biggest concern at the end of the month is still terrorism, the presidential elections, and cicadas that we can make fun of Dr. Gartrell for being yet another nutcase, in a long line of nutcases?

I'm more worried about terrorists using suicide cicadas to influence the presidential elections than I am worried about a meteor or planet crashing into the earth.

But that's just me, and I'm probably one of the biggest conspiracy believers here.

[Rick.Donaldson]

Where this completely falls apart for me is that *this guy* has the *inside track* on *secret government information* and that all sorts of scientific organizations are being paid to cover it up. Additionally, *parties unknown* are conspiring to silence him.

Bingo. Two of the three people contacting me work in the intelligence field. The third is another "survivalist" kinda like me. I think he and I differ greatly on our politics. ALL THREE OF THEM gave me the message "this came from a very good source". That tells me they trust the source of the information. For the most part, the information contained in the original post here appeared in my emails (Including, but not limited to the asteroid/comet situation as WELL as the "Navy" comments where the navy is moving a large group of ships. I got a location (China Sea I believe they said, don't have the emails at the moment to refer to) but that was about it. I can't confirm (nor deny) ANYTHING that appeared in the emails. That's usually the case though. There is almost NEVER an originating source (got to protect that, you know!) and locations, times, dates, etc are always "fuzzy". People involved (especially those evil government people keeping secrets) are never named. Those doing the "passing on" never name themselves either.

To me, this is just one more nonsense conspiracy theory being bandied about the internet and it'll die in a few weeks as well. There is one major difference in this and Y2K for instance. Y2K WAS an incident "about to happen". The difference is that a lot of us in the computer industry worked long hours to upgrade machines that were known to have these "bugs". The utilities industries did the same (power plants etc). The FAA upgraded their own systems when it came to air traffic control, and the GPS satellites were "fixed" as well to the best of my knowledge, so "Y2K" as a 'disaster' never happened. But it COULD have. It's simply that the industry was AWARE of what MIGHT happen if they DID NOTHING. So, y2k was a non-issue. Most of these so-called TEOTWAWKI scenarios turn out to be "non-issues" because there are little FACTS to back them up, and when someone comes along and starts pointing out the real facts (like, gosh, no one has discovered or announced such a comet yet!) they are decried by the "believe community" as "being in on the conspiracy, working for the government and being paid off to shut up".

It's all so TYPICAL! (By the way, I wouldn't dump any stocks any time soon, haha, but then again, I am not a financial advisor!) Of course, I AM part of the conspiracy you see, since I work as a contractor for the government. (Richard Hoagland called me a government plant once! lol, that was certainly a nice thing to do, huh? hahaha)

[Riley]

But how are you gonna pay up if this guy is right?

WE'LL ALL BE DEAD!!!!

See how nefarious I am? Remember, I used to work for the government.

[JustPlainJoe]

Yes, I know what those are saying, but it ALL goes together.
This 'thing' we're discussing is supposed to virtually end life on this planet. Yet the Bible goes through a lot of stuff pertaining to Israel, her neighbors and events to happen before Christ's return. How will all this be possible if we're all annihilated first in a couple of weeks?
In any case, I'm not worried. We can't change what we can't change. If we get blown up this June, I'll see you on the other side. But honestly, I believe in the great "Beam-me up". No 'scientist' told me about that one. The Book did.

[Happy2BMe]

One thing that we as Christians rest in knowing for sure, God is in control.

And if he has allowed objects in space to be on a collision course with earth, then he can in an instant cause them to veer off on another course.

Or, he can reduce the impact as he has done more than once to reveal his power to a sinful world.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Luke 17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

Luke 17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.

Luke 17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Luke 17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body [is], thither will the eagles be gathered together.

[JustPlainJoe]

Whaddya say folks, should we all leave our jobs, NOT pay the mortgage or car payment this month and use the money to take the kiddies to Disney World for one last fling?

[Happy2BMe]

Please don't go to Disney World to escape this thing - it will be one of the first places hit! (Especially during gay appreciation week.)

:~)

[Riley]

You know something? I'm a Christian, too. I believe that God is there and is every bit as omnipotent and omniscient as the Bible says He is.

I also believe that it is entirely possible that the end of the world is *thousands of years* away. I will continue to believe that, even if we *were* get hit with a flying object from the Gamma Quadrant.

Are we in the end times? Maybe, maybe not. So far, what have we got? The Jews have returned to Israel. Okay, what else? I am not a Biblical scholar. Someone fill me in here.
Perhaps more to the point, what generation *hasn't* thought it lived in the end times? Huge, spectacular disasters happen. Big rocks have fallen from the sky before. They can't *all* be harbingers of The End.

I don't worry about the end times. I don't worry about Big Rocks Fom Space. As a Christian, I worry about stuff that I *can* control, like doing my best to do what God wants me to. You even have to be careful with that. There are people that sincerely believe that God wants them to blow up busloads of innocents. Well, He gave us brains and varying degrees of common sense. It's up to us to use them appropriately.

Like when people with 'secret information' start going on about pole shifts and superstorms and rocks from space and on and on and on...

[JustPlainJoe]

Those are awesome! That's what I'm talking about!

BEFORE the flood, he TOOK NOAH out in the ark.
BEFORE Sodom & Gomorrah, he TOOK LOT out.

I can only deduce that before the great calamities come,
God's mode of operation is to take His own Out!

I still maintain that certain other events must happen first. We all know about the 'mark of the beast'. Who'll be left to take it (or give it?) if we're destroyed THIS summer?

[Riley]

Anybody want to buy a titanium umbrella?

You're giving me a 'Wile E. Coyote' moment with that. Standing under a falling space rock with a Titanium umbrella would be like watching a picture-hanging finishing nail being pounded into a waterlogged balsa log with a pile driver. WHOMP!! LOL! :-)

[JustPlainJoe]

Exactly!

Yeah, what he said!


Forgive me for my humor with this topic. But while I
believe such a thing can happen (who knows?) I think it's
HIGHLY doubtful. Science is a very entertaining thing.

Isn't a collision like this attributed to what CAUSED all life to begin way back when? And now, the SAME thing may be about to happen, but for some strange reason, THIS time, it's gonna END life.
Does not compute, Will Robinson!

[JustPlainJoe]

Get 'em quick, folks! They're moving like hotcakes!

Only 98 genuine Titanium umbrellas left, now on sale for the very low price of $324,979.00 each. I'll throw in a set of kitchen knives to the next 5 callers! These knives have been hardly used (only on cats - I got them secondhand from the local oriental restaurant at their "going out of business" sale) and they're guaranteed to chop those falling asteroids like overripe tomatoes!
That's right, you heard it! GUARANTEED! If these babies don't keep you safe from unwanted flaming matter, you can have your money back! (providing you can find my wallet among my ashes)

[Blood of Tyrants]

I'm right with God. I'm ready.

[Riley]

I don't think that science and faith are necessarily mutually exclusive. I think that we are far from the necessary intellectual maturity as a species to fit all of the pieces together.

I think that in the end, all of the great questions may have very different answers than any of us are really expecting.