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To: Riley
Where this completely falls apart for me is that *this guy* has the *inside track* on *secret government information* and that all sorts of scientific organizations are being paid to cover it up. Additionally, *parties unknown* are conspiring to silence him.

Bingo. Two of the three people contacting me work in the intelligence field. The third is another "survivalist" kinda like me. I think he and I differ greatly on our politics. ALL THREE OF THEM gave me the message "this came from a very good source". That tells me they trust the source of the information. For the most part, the information contained in the original post here appeared in my emails (Including, but not limited to the asteroid/comet situation as WELL as the "Navy" comments where the navy is moving a large group of ships. I got a location (China Sea I believe they said, don't have the emails at the moment to refer to) but that was about it. I can't confirm (nor deny) ANYTHING that appeared in the emails. That's usually the case though. There is almost NEVER an originating source (got to protect that, you know!) and locations, times, dates, etc are always "fuzzy". People involved (especially those evil government people keeping secrets) are never named. Those doing the "passing on" never name themselves either.

To me, this is just one more nonsense conspiracy theory being bandied about the internet and it'll die in a few weeks as well. There is one major difference in this and Y2K for instance. Y2K WAS an incident "about to happen". The difference is that a lot of us in the computer industry worked long hours to upgrade machines that were known to have these "bugs". The utilities industries did the same (power plants etc). The FAA upgraded their own systems when it came to air traffic control, and the GPS satellites were "fixed" as well to the best of my knowledge, so "Y2K" as a 'disaster' never happened. But it COULD have. It's simply that the industry was AWARE of what MIGHT happen if they DID NOTHING. So, y2k was a non-issue. Most of these so-called TEOTWAWKI scenarios turn out to be "non-issues" because there are little FACTS to back them up, and when someone comes along and starts pointing out the real facts (like, gosh, no one has discovered or announced such a comet yet!) they are decried by the "believe community" as "being in on the conspiracy, working for the government and being paid off to shut up".

It's all so TYPICAL! (By the way, I wouldn't dump any stocks any time soon, haha, but then again, I am not a financial advisor!) Of course, I AM part of the conspiracy you see, since I work as a contractor for the government. (Richard Hoagland called me a government plant once! lol, that was certainly a nice thing to do, huh? hahaha)
28 posted on 06/02/2004 9:23:07 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary and those who don't.)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Even if the government were attempting to quell potential civilian rioting that would occur with general knowledge of the "end of the world", there would be signs of massive constructions underground (the "Burrow") preparing to preserve a remnant for repopulating the world. This would be a noticeable drain on the economy. It ain't there.

Consider: a world-wide consipracy of silence among astronomers and cosmologists may be possible (I doubt it... think of the egos) but how about a world-wide conspiracy of silence among BUREAUCRATS and POLITICIANS??? I think you would see a grand migration of bureaucrats' and politicians' families moving to Colorado and Montana, lands high and far away from oceans... it hasn't happened. Too many high-level government officials in FEMA and other departments have left government service in the past 20 years... many of them with no family "baggage" that can be used to coerce their cooperation and silence... to maintain such a stupendous conspiracy of silence. They haven't squealed!

If this EOW event were nigh, would we have allowed the Space Shuttle to have been sidetracked by one little accident? Wouldn't we be building as many as we could in hopes of a technological breakthrough that would need transportation to space to save us all? The shuttle is grounded!

Dr "Gartrel" MISSPELLED HIS OWN NAME! How likely is that? He also claimed that the "friction" of the "dust cloud" would result the Space Station and all satellites falling from orbit, releasing "tons of toxic gases and rad" that would cause us all to "choke". A proper scientist would refer to "DRAG" not "FRICTION" as what would cause the satellites to fall from orbit. A proper scientist would know that the itsy-bitsy amount of "toxic gases" and radiation added to the atmosphere by these falling satellites would not even be noticeable to humanity,

Speaking of the satellites if, as this guy asserts, we are already seeing the early effects of the "friction" on the Moon ("IT isn't where it supposed to be!") and the "wobble of the Earth" WHY can I still receive my satellite dish signal? Why hasn't this "friction" slowed the geo-synchronous satellites' orbits and caused them to no longer BE where my dish points???? Why are the GPS satellites still working?

I think the test of this scenario is in the reports of the naval ships going to sea.

IF the government is expecting major cosmic collisions in the next three-four weeks, then ALL 12 carrier groups would be sent to sea, not just seven.


100 posted on 06/03/2004 12:57:30 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tagline shut down for renovations and repairs. Re-open June of 2001.)
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