Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles - Daily Terror Threat

Debka ^ | 11-3-2003 | Staff

[Cindy]

LINKS OF INTEREST
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: ATTACK ON AMERICA
http://www.truthusa.com/911.html

[angkor]

There was a large explosion about 20 minutes after the plane hit the Pentagon. I know, I heard it and felt it. It shook the plate glass windows of the store I was just preparing to enter, about 3 miles from the Pentagon.

A friend who's an EMT later said it was a LP gas tank exploding at the Pentagon.

There were also realtime reports of a car bomb at the State Dept., which turned out not to be true.

I took a drive around downtown DC that same evening, including right through the Mall via 14th Street, and there was no other apparent damage other than the Pentagon.

[angkor]

There was a second explosion about 20 minutes after Pentagon impact. I heard it and felt it from 3 miles away. An EMT friend later told me it was an LP storage tank at the Pentagon.

[Calpernia]

Does that mean there was no fire at the Wasington Mall?

[Calpernia]

I think this is the first picture I've seen them load that has a date stamp in the lower right corner.

[Calpernia]

You know what? I think you nailed it there. The chatter wasn't speaking of Tappahannock per say. It is a metaphor. What ever they were referring to, Tappahannock was used as a reference to rise and fall of water.

I still think this is how rural was misinterpreted too. This is just my opinion based solely on what I've been learning from the Arabic language.

[angkor]

There was also an explosion in Foggy Bottom.

There was an alleged explosion in Foggy Bottom. Actually IIRC, media references were to the State Dept. (not the more general area of Foggy Bottom), and State was evacuated. But the truth is that every federal building in DC and No. VA was evac'd by 10:30AM. It was also reported by CNN as a "car bomb" at State the morning of 9/11. I clearly remember that.

But none of this turned out to be true.

Even on that day, 9/11, it seemed to me as if someone had reported the threat of a "car bomb" at State, and it was garbled by the media in realtime reporting to mean an actual car bomb.

Also, I drove around downtown DC the evening of 9/11. There was no evidence of any "car bomb" or any other kind of damage anywhere, aside from the Pentagon. There was certainly no assertion of any bomb in the media the next day, and it would be extremely difficult to overlook such a thing if it really happened.

I'm also trying to cleanup this issue about the "explosion" which occurred some time after the plane hit the Pentagon, because there's a lot of confusion about it.

Yes, there was an explosion, no doubt about that. I heard it about 20 minutes after the plane struck. I know this time is accurate because I had left the house just before 10AM to get to a biz appointment, and heard the explosion 5 to 8 minutes later while stopping to buy aspirin at a CVS down the street.

This explosion was from an LP gas tank at the Pentagon, as relayed to me by an EMT/fireman with 15 years experience. I know the guy well and have no reason to disbelieve him. But you could hear and feel it from 3 miles away (it shook the windows at the CVS pharmacy), which would certainly explain why folks in Foggy Bottom and elsewhere in DC would have heard this same explosion.

[angkor]

The Mall is 2 miles long by 3/10 mile wide. It's the long strip of lawn that hosts the Lincoln Memorial, the Reflecting Pool, the Washington Monument, several of the Smithsonian museums, and the National Gallery Of Art. It's huge.

No, there was no fire there or anywhere else in DC on 9/11.

[TexKat]

Guys, I gotta tell you I don't think that's so. I think there was lots of "chatter" that didn't we didn't hear about, but I think it was there.

They did not say that there was no chatter. Thats a given that there was a high volume of chatter. Southack posted that the terrorist did not brag prior to 9/11 as stupid wanna-be Daleel is doing.

[bvw]

Those times don not apply to micro-particles one breathes in, that get caught in the alveoli sacs The hold-up times in the body there can be lifetime.

[Pegita]

Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that Christmas day and night have passed without attack upon our beloved country. Thank You that the ebb and flow of information has averted disaster. Stir all the nations, I pray, to be ever vigilant, for none can dwell in peace and safety until all plans for the shedding of innocent blood have been revealed. Refresh those who stand watch, whether here or abroad, for by Your might, they are the guardians of our freedom. We praise You for each one, Merciful Father ... may their reward be another day when destruction is not visited upon us. In the Name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...

[ladyjane]

The person I know was in her house very near the State Department talking by phone to her husband at the Pentagon. The 'explosion' or something shook the house. Whatever it was, it was in the area of the State Department, not the Pentagon. Maybe it was a plane breaking the sound barrier. Also that morning there was a freeper who reported seeing a fire or smoke by the mall. It was a first hand report, he was looking out his office window. IIRC it was about 10:00 to 10:30am when he posted it.

[relee]

From TIME

Senior law enforcement officials say car bomb explodes outside of State Department in Washington, D.C. Federal protective services later denies car bomb attack occurred...

And the POST

...The core of the nation's capital was plunged this morning into a state of fear and confusion, with rumors of explosions all over town and thousands of people trapped in gridlocked traffic. People scanned the skies for incoming terrorist planes. There were reports – sources unknown – of bombs and smoke all around the federal city.

They came one after another: A car bomb at the State Department. A bomb at the Capitol. A bomb at the Old Executive Office Building. The USA Today building in Rosslyn was supposedly enveloped in smoke. Reported as fact on radio and television, the rumors were untrue...

[angkor]

When the explosion occurred approximately 10:05AM, I intitially thought it came from office buildings 100 yards away, it sounded that close. As I said, it shook the plate glass windows of the CVS store 15 feet in front of me. Many of the employees in this strip mall came running out of their stores into the parking lot.

Again, there were few media reports of this incident (although I've seen one or two), and my only explanation comes from an experienced EMT, whose emergency services buddies said an LP tank at the Pentagon exploded at that time (BTW, they also said the airplane hit the ground before hitting the Pentagon).

I was 3.5 miles from the Pentagon at the time, your friend in Foggy Bottom was 2 miles away. So there's no doubt that if I heard it from 3.5 miles, that she also would have heard it from 2 miles.

And I don't at all dispute that her house shook, because I could actually "feel" the explosion as much as hear it. Again, the windows visibly shook.

BTW, I reported seeing smoke on FR that morning, and I initially couldn't tell exactly where it was coming from. It's very possible I posted just before leaving the house right around 10AM, and it's also possible I would have said the smoke was in the direction of the Mall. So your source may have been me!

[Calpernia]

The reports vs. rumors are interesting. I can't help but wonder if there was more that happened then just the Pentagon. Even here, there are denials of other explosions then the towers being hit. But there were additional explosions. And more than just the towers fell. The other buildings in the Financial Center fell due to the additional explosions. Some news reports have reported since they were gas lines; but they weren't. Gas was cut immediately to that area. I have reason to think there were car bombs.

[Lazamataz]

Thanks for the knowledge. Who knew?

Our college didn't have a lot of nuclear courses at the undergraduate level.

And just for the record: Uranium and Plutonium *are* metals. They are also very brittle, another factor to consider.

So if I drop my pit on the floor, it's gonna shatter into a million pieces.

And you know how difficult it is to get fissionable materials from under the fridge.

[ladyjane]

Thanks relee. I don't know why the car bomb story was later denied. All I know is two or three days after it allegedly happened I was told "We're not talking about it." They didn't deny it happened but it became a topic not to be discussed.

[bonesmccoy]

The half-life of an isotope is a fixed decay rate. The decay rate of an element does NOT change.

[bonesmccoy]

The half-life of an isotope is a fixed decay rate. The decay rate of an element does NOT change.

[angkor]

....rumors of explosions all over town ... Reported as fact on radio and television, the rumors were untrue...

Relee, I'm not sure if you're trying to make the case for "explosions all over town" or the fact that they were rumors (as stated in the snips you've posted).

But I was there. No "bombs and smoke all around the federal city." No car bomb at State, as reported by CNN and subsequently refuted.

And if true, why was I able to drive all around downtown DC that evening, and why didn't I see any damage anywhere, and why were there no fire trucks, and why was there no bomb damage at State, and why do my 11:10AM photos of DC (from a highrise building) show no smoke anywhere but from the Pentagon, and ....?????

100 percent unadulterated rumors.