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What I Saw And Heard In Washington: Groyperism's Spread Among Generation Z Conservative Apparatchiks Is Real
Subastack ^ | November 11, 2025 | Rid Dreher

Posted on 11/12/2025 4:08:46 AM PST by C19fan

I don’t know what you did on Friday night, but I spent about 90 minutes in the vice president’s study with him and the men you see above, talking geopolitics, Hungary, and the survival of Christianity in Europe, among other things. Of course I can’t be indiscreet about the discussion, but it was rich and vigorous. I’m really glad that JD got to experience the actual, living Viktor Orban in person, and to see for himself how wrong the propaganda is. They got on very, very well.

I was able to have a few minutes with the vice president before the PM and his team arrived. I shared with him my views about the threat that Nick Fuentes and Groyperism pose to the country, to the GOP, and to him personally. He listened to what I had to say. And that is all I can say about it, out of respect for his privacy.

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TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: fuentes; furries; groypers; homosexuals; incel; incels; qanon; substackloser; substacktroller

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To: SomeCallMeTim
I am not taking sides here, but the response to all of this was to attack Tucker - that's okay - for interviewing Fuentes who is a loud mouthpiece for this. So calling everyone racist Nazi and passing discredit all around is the response of those who are covering up the social crime. Again, someone credible needs to address this entire topic responsibly and seriously to sort out who are the scoundrels, if any, where are the injustices and where does justice lie.

And it seems like this is a whole lot worse than a bunch of kids thinking life would be easy now whining because life is hard. If they worked hard for a lie, for a swindle of a promise that was never meant to be delivered, by adults then there is another debt to be paid in addition to figuring out how the financial debt gets paid.

I see no adults in the room, unless I have missed something.

Oh and RINOs not supporting Trump and $38T in debt and ticking.

21 posted on 11/12/2025 6:23:49 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: SomeCallMeTim

I can’t stand it and have actively rejected watching stupid TV sit coms that portray men as incompetent , bumbling idiots, or racist bigots.


22 posted on 11/12/2025 6:38:43 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: AndyJackson
And it seems like this is a whole lot worse than a bunch of kids thinking life would be easy now whining because life is hard.

Life has been hard for the vast majority of mankind for virtually all of human history.

What a bunch of entitled whiners. They need to get a life.

23 posted on 11/12/2025 6:40:39 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus….)
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To: C19fan

Haven’t heard that definition, but personally, I really liked the band.


24 posted on 11/12/2025 6:41:41 AM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: C19fan

Thanks for explaining. Why did someone think a new word had to be made up to describe this? I’m not addressing my question to you, the poster, but to that tendency to invent odd sounding descriptions just to sound unique. New terms about old actions, such as Phishing, Catfishing, Dog Whistles. Dog Piling, Ghosting.

When I see the term Groyper, I see what looks like the term Groper, or something related to sexual harassment. I guess I just need to get with the times.


25 posted on 11/12/2025 6:41:48 AM PST by lee martell
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To: metmom

I had a young female engineer who worked for me who was super smart, a great salesperson, but was wholly consumed by the thought that women didn’t get fair treatment in the male-dominated world of global sales (where 50+ % travel time was routine). Like. Duh

I tried to explain to her that the main reason few women were in positions of upper management were because 20 years prior to that, almost no women studied chemical engineering, but that had changed dramatically. So change was inevitably coming and she was on the front edge of it.

She was into every “girl power” initiative. When she was “passed over” for a few promotions she was not the best candidate for, she assumed it was discrimination. I told her, “I assure you, the men who made these decisions don’t think so, they’ll be offended if anyone suggests that, and if they hear it coming from you, you’ll NEVER be promoted to management”.

Eventually, she had two sons of her own. As they grew older, I used to tell her, “I can’t wait for the day you realize how stacked the deck is now AGAINST your boys. I hope you will one day advocate for them.”

Two different times. (Yes, TWO… long story). I left the company (once for a different company, once for retirement) she was promoted to my position as I left. BOTH times, she left the company two months later. The travel requirements were not “family friendly”.

Her boys are nearing HS graduation now. She’s still a TDS liberal with no signs of concern for her boys’ future. Maybe, if one turns into a Groyper, she’ll care. But I doubt it.


26 posted on 11/12/2025 7:06:51 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: metmom

“entitled whiners”

Lol.

In other news historians now agree that Gengis Khan and his Mongol Hordes were “entitled whiners”.


27 posted on 11/12/2025 7:12:58 AM PST by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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To: AndyJackson

I started my professional career in 1982, when interest rates were 21+%. My bosses all lived in big houses with 3-4% rates and low payments. I had to rent a tiny apartment until I could afford a tiny house with a big payment. Life didn’t seem terrible fair.

I thought it sucked. But at least, there were still hot women to chase. I married one, we commiserated our mistreatment , then had sex and carried on happily with our lives. I had a companionship and hope. The economy sucked, but we didn’t care.

These young boys today have nothing. They’ve been left behind. No work ethic, no drive, no hope, no family prospects. They HAVE to find someone else to blame.


28 posted on 11/12/2025 7:15:43 AM PST by SomeCallMeTim
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To: AndyJackson

“someone credible needs to address this entire topic responsibly and seriously to sort out who are the scoundrels, if any, where are the injustices and where does justice lie”

It is too late for that.

There are no unbiased referees in the game any more.

There are just winners and losers in the fight for raw power.

If you don’t like the sound of that—too bad and too late.

If the young men win they get to control the narrative.

If they lose they get to be scolded and denigrated by those who hold power aka the status quo.


29 posted on 11/12/2025 7:16:45 AM PST by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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To: C19fan

It’s where trannies came from?.


30 posted on 11/12/2025 7:26:38 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: AndyJackson

Still confirms my opinion that Fuentes is a self important nothing-burger.

I remember two years ago when Milo said to watch out for his scam.


31 posted on 11/12/2025 7:37:49 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: KC Burke

Time will be the judge on this stuff.

Many here thought President Trump was a “scam” in 2015.

Lots of folks here warned us about him.

Lol.


32 posted on 11/12/2025 7:48:28 AM PST by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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To: Petrosius
this is the first time I have heard the term Groyperism. Exactly what is it?

Here is a Groyper. The "ism" is the state of being a Groyper and everything he types on his keyboard.


33 posted on 11/12/2025 8:23:51 AM PST by libh8er
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To: C19fan

I continue to be pleasantly surprised by Rod Dreher.


34 posted on 11/12/2025 8:27:21 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (בראשית ברא אלקים את השמים ואת הארץ)
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To: metmom

The women are living lives contrary to their very biology. Society has them convinced to forego children and marry when there are no men available to them.


35 posted on 11/12/2025 8:43:28 AM PST by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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To: KC Burke

In never heard of him until the controversy with the Tucker interview.


36 posted on 11/12/2025 8:50:21 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: metmom

You’re utterly wrong.

Look up divorce rape.
Look up the stats on dating apps — women consider 80% of men to be “below average”.
Look up the stats on college, most BAs are awarded to women.

When women are behind men, it’s an example of the patriarchy holding them down.

When men are behind women, it’s because the men are weak and can’t compete with strong women.

It’s all Marxist-initiated (many decades ago) lies.

And your male-shaming is pure projection.


37 posted on 11/12/2025 9:09:34 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: C19fan

That might be part of it, but, Groyperism is a largely a result of dumb, racist motherf***ers on the nazi left, pretending they are right, and misleading the minds full of mush. The vast majority of conservative leaning young men, despite the commie leftists and the Tucker Fuenteses of the world still navigate there way out of that poison.


38 posted on 11/12/2025 9:47:44 AM PST by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: grey_whiskers

Anybody who has been on the dating market for at least 5 years does not understand how much the female culture has changed. What they demand is a minimum, 6’0 tall and $300,000 minimal income and in great shape and is cultured and connected is about 1 in 17,000 men (according to Grok). That’s the bare minimum that men have to meet.

What is happening is that the women are all sharing the same few men, because they seem to prefer to be part of a haram and not be intimately connected with a single male. So, even average females give themselves over to those few top men and they use the top men as a model to compare every other men to.

The term for this phenomenon is Alpha-widow, which is a woman who slept with some top male and is convinced she could have landed him. However, she thinks she is settling when she finally marries with some more average male.

However, the truth is that she isn’t settling. She dated out of her league by being an easy catch for a top male and the male she is marrying is her equal and she’s not happy with that.


39 posted on 11/12/2025 10:05:32 AM PST by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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To: pissant

The good males are just learning to be happy on their own and they don’t hate women. They are doing things like enjoying their hobbies and games and their social circle. They don’t feel the need for companionship because many of them were told to go away because the women didn’t want them.

Even Steven Crowder, a near-top catch, because he has all the qualities that these women want wasn’t immune from the new reality of female culture.


40 posted on 11/12/2025 10:07:52 AM PST by Jonty30 (I've been diagnosed as being polemic and there is no cure. )
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