[delta7]

The largest Russian missile attack on Ukie energy last night, Pokrovsk fallen, Kupiansk next, and Zelensky's orders to hold at all costs ( against Gen Syrsky's orders to evacuate), and more.

Largely unreported by western MSM, the Ukie war cheerleaders still think somehow Ukraine is " winning". Me thinks they urgently need winter parkas instead of more weapons.

[kiryandil]

In Before CandyGaytor and TexasFloss [IBCGATF]

[PAR35]

I don’t believe the news coming from either side at this point, but I do have some military advice that the Ukes would be well advised to follow, so the Uke assets on FR should pass this along to their handlers:

Read Finnish history, with emphasis on the 20th Century. Because that is how things are going to end up for Ukraine.

[kiryandil]

BrokeBackCandyCrushGaytorFloss

[Captainpaintball]

AMERICA FIRST.

[Owen]

You can find declarations of victory in about 12 different directions online.

I looked into methodology recently. The channel you quote has an interesting one. He looks for videos in the various Telegram channels. If they show someone being attacked from a drone and the video and attacking drone were Russian, attacking one or several Ukraine soldiers, he marks on his map that this area is Ukraine occupied. The soldiers were there and that’s his indicator, even if under attack.

And vice versa. If Ukraine drone video shows a building being attacked, he presumes there were Russians inside and therefor that building was occupied.

It’s basically war porn in reverse. If a war porn video is uploaded showing Ukraine forces killing Russians, that defines where the Russians were. And vice versa.

Other channels wait for Ukraine MoD declarations and that becomes their truth, marking the map so. And others wait for Russian MoD declarations and that becomes their truth, marking the map accordingly.

The Dima guy above at least has a methodology that doesn’t lean on obvious propaganda sources like the respective MoD’s.

It’s pretty clear Tulsi Gabbard has been assigned to deal with other locales (like Gaza) but it would be nice to have satellite imagery presented periodically of the lines in Donbas. Truth is a very scarce thing now.

[House Atreides]

“ Officers Urge Zelensky to Withdraw from Pokrovsk”
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Hmmmm….. déjà vu. “Officers urge Hitler to withdraw from Stalingrad”. Great strategic minds, those two.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

For the sake of fairness, here is a link to Military Summary's YouTube/Adsense estimated earnings from this business, rooted in Bosnia & Herzegovina.

When other threads post videos saying quite opposite sorts of things, they too are part of a Google/YouTube AdSense 'cottage industry' of providing some sort of coverage of the Ukraine-Russia war. [ Which means, among other things, Google/YouTube wins one way or wins another. ]

Sure as shootin', the legacy media isn't doing war reporting of the sort I recall from the Vietnam and Iraq-Afghanistan times, and not like the WWII newsreels which are still available to be seen.

Since some "content creators" of have reported Pokrovsk being successfully defended by Ukraine, and others have reported the city has fallen more or less to Russia, it surely seems than "messaging" is crucial to today's fun and games on FR.

As to cheerleaders, one thing is completely clear. Time will tell.

After all, at the end of WWII, Truman, Churchill and Stalin all met together, while Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito were unavailable for comment. Something like that is coming. Likely sooner than many think.

[logi_cal869]

According to zeepers, that’s not possible.

/s

[Sacajaweau]

Forget the missiles...send boots, coats, gloves, hats...

[Navy Patriot]

Ukraine Energy Grid Near Collapse.

So The Last Ukrainian Alive won't have to bother to turn off the lights.

[CircleCityHamburgerMan]

Ukraine is not and never has been our problem. It is a corrupt neo-Nazi dictatorship. Every Ukrainian I have met has been as bad as any Russian.

The U.S. has flushed billions in weapons and probably secretly a lot of good fighting men there. All to cover Biden’s corrupt family.

Let it collapse and Russia right behind it.

[SaxxonWoods]

Ukraine is doing so well I’m waiting for them to take just one city back from Russian control. Just one. The most horrific part is the order to stay in cauldrons and die rather than surrender. No food, no water, no medical assistance.

[Socon-Econ]

The Russians would earn much goodwill by mounting an aggressive effort to trade their ceasing infrastructure attacks for Ukraine doing the same.

[tennmountainman]

It was only a matter of attrition and time.

[Kazan]

Good! When it collapses completely, Ukraine will be forced to surrender and Trump won’t have to waste anymore time on it or give anymore weapons to Ukraine through Europe.

[daniel1212]

Meaning we increasingly are to rely on YouTube and TikTok for reliable info?

[Mariner]

“and Zelensky’s orders to hold at all costs ( against Gen Syrsky’s orders to evacuate)”

That is most significant, if true.
Is there a written source for that disconnect?

We KNOW Z’s orders are always “hold to the last man”.

But I can’t find anything written anywhere about his CiC ordering a retreat.

[Republican Wildcat]

Again?

How many times does this make?

Same source...again. Same poster...again.

[Red6]

Will the “Patriots” leading Ukraine bleed their nation out, or settle this?

I think if left to their own, they really would fight until the last Ukrainian, may that young boy grabbed from the street and forced into a van agree with that or not! LOL

An end to this war probably means an end to Ukraine’s junta.

Junta: a military or political group that rules a country after taking power by force.

An end to this war under these conditions also looks really bad for NATO.

Many folks in the West pinned their reputation on this war too.

IMHO, this war is continued because of political futures, not because Ukraine has a realistic chance of winning or changing the outcome. In fact, the longer the war goes on, the WORSE the deal will be for Ukraine since Russia will be sitting on more of Ukraine and the power balance will likely shift even more in Russia’s favor.

[Texan4Life]

IMF Raises Red Flags on Ukraine Budget Ahead of Fresh Talks | WION

The International Monetary fund is raising concerns over several key budget measures in Ukraine as the country negotiates a new 8 billion dollars loan package. While the government seeks to ease the impact of the ongoing war on its citizens... The IMF is warning that some policies may worsen Ukraine’s already fragile fiscal situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90O61u9PL1M