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Ukraine Energy Grid Near Collapse.
Military Summary Channrl ^ | 8 Nov 25 | Dima

Posted on 11/08/2025 6:37:55 AM PST by delta7

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To: PAR35; Liz; GOPJ; mass55th; Candor7; Albion Wilde; rlmorel; SunkenCiv; jacknhoo; alloysteel
Thank you, PAR35, for prompting me to look for a more efficient way to explore a historical event or issue.  Here's an outline of a research methodology using your subject as an example:
  1. Follow a hint from a FReeper or other expert.

    It all begins when we hear a fresh idea.  Gaining unique perspective from experts across numerous backgrounds is why many of us read Free Republic in the first place. 

    PAR35 posted his teaser: "read Finnish history in the 20th century... to learn how the Ukraine war is going to end."  And that aroused my curiosity.

  2. Learn how the historical event is named.

    I knew Finland and Russia had fought each other at some point in history, but I knew neither the date nor any other details.  So I posted a simple Google search: "when did Russia and Finland fight each other"?

    That search pointed me to a Wikipedia topic: Winter War.

  3. Ask an on-target question in Google search.

    So knowing the widely-adopted name for the war between Russian and Finland, we can go into Google search again and ask it an on-target question such as: What was the result of the Winter War?.  And you get to read a beautiful summary of key thinking on that key point.

  4. Explore Google's search results.

    The Google summary is guaranteed to be better analysis than you can find on Wikipedia.  And the related search recommendations will lead you to the deeper analysis you are looking for. 

    For instance, I found a splendid essay titled, The Winter War: The Soviet Invasion of Finland a well-written piece with great pictures to break up the text.

    And while we know that Wikipedia is weak on details and is often politically biased, it can still be a secondary source for things like statistics, in this case, on the number of war deaths and casualties.

  5. Search for Visuals and Maps

    One other invaluable research aid is to search for images, such as maps showing and areas ceded to Russia,

I've emphasized Google path to a deeper research (or AI as it's called), and I'm curious to see what other AI research is available at low or no cost.

Long term, I think Google is moving search users to better sources than Wikipedia alone.  Google not only keeps track of how many people access sources of text/content intelligence on a particular subject, but also the site visits of expert searchers in the particular field of knowledge.  If Victor Davis Hanson visits a site often, I'll bet the site gets more hits. :-)

OK, I've spent some time exploring this research method, what do you FReepers think?  Cheers.

81 posted on 11/08/2025 6:40:12 PM PST by poconopundit
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To: poconopundit

My trust level for AI is lower than many. I’ve found some of the Google summaries to be excellent, and have given me what I need, in most cases I’ll use the information as a basis for a search and look for more traditionally reliable sources.

As for the Russian - Finnish wars, be sure to also look at the Continuation War.


82 posted on 11/08/2025 6:50:25 PM PST by PAR35 (I)
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To: AAABEST

Weird how you never see their names on the FR donors board...

😉😂😂


83 posted on 11/08/2025 6:55:53 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: poconopundit; PAR35

Wikipedia: if it evens SMELLS of politics, it’s garbage.


84 posted on 11/08/2025 6:57:13 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: PAR35
Read Finnish history, with emphasis on the 20th Century. Because that is how things are going to end up for Ukraine.

Winter War scenario in Ukraine.

My estimate is that the war will end sometime between 2030-2035.

Ukraine refuses to surrender their territory.

Russia cannot go home empty-handed because that will threaten Putin's legitimacy as a "strongman".

85 posted on 11/08/2025 7:00:07 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: poconopundit; PAR35
And while we know that Wikipedia is weak on details and is often politically biased, it can still be a secondary source for things like statistics, in this case, on the number of war deaths and casualties.

Wikipedia can't usually lie about numbers and get away with it.

Notice I said USUALLY. YMMV

86 posted on 11/08/2025 7:00:43 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: delta7

Will the “Patriots” leading Ukraine bleed their nation out, or settle this?

I think if left to their own, they really would fight until the last Ukrainian, may that young boy grabbed from the street and forced into a van agree with that or not! LOL

An end to this war probably means an end to Ukraine’s junta.

Junta: a military or political group that rules a country after taking power by force.

An end to this war under these conditions also looks really bad for NATO.

Many folks in the West pinned their reputation on this war too.

IMHO, this war is continued because of political futures, not because Ukraine has a realistic chance of winning or changing the outcome. In fact, the longer the war goes on, the WORSE the deal will be for Ukraine since Russia will be sitting on more of Ukraine and the power balance will likely shift even more in Russia’s favor.


87 posted on 11/08/2025 7:53:49 PM PST by Red6
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To: kiryandil
Don't need any proof or anything.

LOL! You are *this very thread* having already done exactly what I said! No proof? LOL!

88 posted on 11/08/2025 7:57:01 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

I consider Military personnel (active, retired, and inactive) who support the Democrat Party as oath breakers, unfit for any consideration.


89 posted on 11/08/2025 7:59:12 PM PST by rlmorel (Factio Communistica Sinensis Delenda Est.)
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To: Red6

“In fact, the longer the war goes on, the WORSE the deal will be for Ukraine since Russia will be sitting on more of Ukraine”

November 2022: Russia held about 19% of Ukraine

November 2025: Russia holds about 19% of Ukraine


90 posted on 11/08/2025 8:03:35 PM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: TexasGator

Sure, Ukraine is winning, I forgot. (Sarc)

Every month, Ukraine loses a little bit, ~168 square miles.

https://www.russiamatters.org/news/russia-ukraine-war-report-card/russia-ukraine-war-report-card-oct-8-2025#:~:text=In%20the%20period%20of%20Sept,gain%20of%2013%20square%20miles.

Russia’s just keeping the pressure on.

They already have most of what they want, you can’t seem to get that fact in your head.

Ukraine is not in NATO. Political objective.

Most the largely ethnic Russian areas are under Russian control. Military objective.

Russia is running a low risk, casualty averse game, aimed at being able to sustain a long fight (partial mobilization, 7.1% GDP on war). Russia “is” balancing guns vs. butter and how they see this war can beat be summed up by who they put in charge more or less, an economist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrey_Belousov


91 posted on 11/08/2025 8:26:06 PM PST by Red6
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To: Red6

Many folks in the West pinned their reputation on this war too.


Remember all those cute Ukie flags flying in our Congress?


92 posted on 11/08/2025 8:54:24 PM PST by delta7
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To: freeandfreezing

I’d say not really.

Drones have a range limit. Particularly these quad rotor things carrying 3 lbs of explosives. The more payload, the less range.

So drawing lines on a map at most would be what, 2 miles uncertain? If someone occupies a spot, and the next day other people are being attacked farther in some direction, you see what you see.

Satellite imagery won’t have the geolocation problems because it is hyper precise as to position and observation angle. Also, if satellite imagery were customary and a norm, you will get more and more soldiers spreading out flags, not holding them up to get shot, spreading them out for the satellite.


93 posted on 11/08/2025 9:00:40 PM PST by Owen
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To: Republican Wildcat

“I don’t have my own reality.”

LOL! - You guys have been WRONG about literally EVERYTHING in this war...and you don’t stop.

Sounds like the definition of an “alternate reality” to me.


94 posted on 11/08/2025 10:40:46 PM PST by BobL (Trusting one's doctor is the #1 health mistake one can make.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

I notice you’re not posting the links, zeepazoid.


95 posted on 11/09/2025 1:42:40 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Red6

To: TexasGator
Do you have to be an ass every day?
84 posted on 9/26/2015, 6:24:20 PM by Jim Robinson

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3341298/posts?page=84#84


96 posted on 11/09/2025 1:43:52 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: rlmorel
--- "I consider Military personnel (active, retired, and inactive) who support the Democrat Party as oath breakers, unfit for any consideration."

Agreed.

97 posted on 11/09/2025 6:20:15 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: poconopundit
--- "OK, I've spent some time exploring this research method, what do you FReepers think? Cheers."

I should add one additional facet to your notion.

Identify by name and with more than one reference the individual(s) and actual source(s) of those who make statements about any event and/or issue.

Anonymous and suppressed authors' identities should be seen as suspect.

Given the Chinese whispers (telephone) games and wrap up smears in which ten "sources" are based on some other single source, identify the original sources, rather than the hearsay. Both the Turing and Searle tests apply here as well as to issue of machine searches, such that one should be able to work beyond "if we fool you, it's true."

98 posted on 11/09/2025 6:30:48 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Red6

“Most the largely ethnic Russian areas are under Russian control. “

Interesting that those regions did NOT want to be under Russian control.


99 posted on 11/09/2025 6:59:24 AM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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To: kiryandil

“To: TexasGator”

Your TDS is hurting you. I know from living rent free in your head for tebpn years.


100 posted on 11/09/2025 7:04:57 AM PST by TexasGator (750 hp Florida Gnat)
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