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Posted on 08/18/2025 12:51:34 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell
I often read on Free Republic that Canada's new prime minister, Mark Carney, is using a false narrative of an American desire to annex Canada as a method for gaining support in Canada against what was before Justin Trudeau's departure a near-certain change of government.
My opinion is that there is indeed a real desire in corridors of power in Washington DC, a plan to annex Canada or force Canadian provinces one by one to choose the option of seeking statehood as their citizens come to the conclusion that Canada is incapable of meeting their economic basic needs.
To some extent this is a self-fulfilling prophecy. The Trump administration places enough economic pressure on Canada to weaken the national economy, one by one (starting with Alberta and Saskatchewan) longer-term grievances come to a critical mass and their residents decide through already-extant political processes to seek either independence or U.S. statehood.
President Trump gave the game away with his comments about Canada being potentially a cherished 51st state, with Justin Trudeau its governor. Combined with insulting narratives about Canada having nothing that the U.S. wants or needs, and the whipping up through color-revolution strategies (directed most likely from parallel non-governmental offices in the Washington DC area) of anti-Canadian sentiments, two objectives are met. First, predictably, there will be massive Canadian dislike for Trump and his administration. This will induce a political reaction, as it did in the April election, to stay with the doomed globalist experiment under the Liberals, avoiding a more skilled and nuanced response that would likely come from the Conservatives.
It has further weakened Canada politically that the Conservative leader, unable to hold back the Liberal tide in April, lost his own seat and is thereby distracted by concerns about winning a by-election in what was supposed to be a safe seat in Alberta (in coming weeks). This byelection is giving Albertans a chance to register a third option vote and also to give an updated opinion on how Carney is responding to the threat.
Make no mistake, fellow FR members, your reporter here is certainly a pro-Trump, pro-MAGA individual personally and would probably be delighted (unlike 95% of my fellow citizens) if there were to be political union in the future between the USA and Canada. If it were within my power to do so, I would lead a political movement in that direction (nobody active in politics in Canada today has a good word to say about it). But as I say, make no mistake ... 95% or perhaps closer to 99% of Canadians want nothing to do with political union. There are three reasons for this:
1. Anyone who might be in favor of political union would likely be, like myself, a libertarian conservative with favorable views of Trump and MAGA. But they realistically understand that for Canada to enter union with the United States would further enhance the prospects of Democrat return to power, and in any case, we would be further behind to be swept up into a globalist America than we are in a globalist Canada. At the very best, it would be a no-win situation. Where such people exist, mainly in western Canada, independence is therefore seen as a better option, figuring that an independent western Canada would have a better chance of remaining anti-globalist.
2. More widely, Canadians figure that as citizens of the United States, they would continue to be looked down upon South Park style, and nobody wants to give up their sovereignty to become a regional have-not minority. Related to this, there would be questions about what rights Canadians would actually have as American citizens, would they gain full rights or would there be a period of partial second-class treatment? Canadians generally expect that they would be treated like dirt (not cherished as Trump stated) and exposed to all sorts of baseless prejudices of which there has been no shortage of examples here on FR (Canadians are retarded, Canadians do not tip, Canadians are stupid, Canadians are grifters, etc etc). None of these prejudices have any basis in fact and can be easily disproved. But unfortunately there is a triumphalist element to MAGA and it has whipped up the lowest common denominator of what people used to call the ugly American syndrome.
(and that introduces a paradox, Trump made political gains by promising to be less involved in imperial neo-con militaristic movements, yet here is an obvious attempt to annex a neighbor country and I often read statements here about how Canada must follow the orders of their superiors in Washington DC. Can you imagine how that plays here? In 1776, or 1814, if I were to post on a hypothetical internet, the Colonies should listen to their natural masters in London, how would you view that? This is how we view your pronouncements)
3. It is widely believed in Canada that political union would result in a shift in economic control from our own centres of power to American centres of power such as New York City, Houston, Dallas, California, etc, and Canadians would be gradually reduced to second-class status in all aspects of daily life -- all we need to do to assess this is to look at how things unfold in border states relative to centres of power. There is a noticeable reduction in standard of living on the U.S. side of our common border, you may not realize it, but it's obvious driving south into the U.S.A. that the standard of living is 25% or more lower than we have on our side of the border. That would of course quickly become similar once the border meant nothing.
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Now, where is this annexation strategy coming from? Is it something Donald Trump always wanted to do. I believe not. I don't think Canada was ever on Donald Trump's personal radar at all. There are political forces in the conservative portion of American politics that existed before Trump came down the escalator in 2015 to enter politics. Those forces are triumphalist (America is wonderful, Canada is terrible), and vengeful (Canada participated in the pro-Obama globalist campaign to weaken America). I get that part. I didn't like it myself and frankly, I am no great defender of Canada, the country has treated me personally like a leper on the basis of my own non-Canadian origins (born in England, not a good thing) and my Christian beliefs (stated in public, not a good thing). Parts of me would be delighted to see Canada humiliated on the world stage, I fully agree with sentiments I read about Canadians thinking they are special. Of course special just means different for a good reason. So it's half true, because Canadians are different for a bad reason (to advance socialism).
Trust me on this, you would not get the result the think tank triumphalists think they will get, if you absorb Canada. Canadians are very cunning people and very skilled at fitting into difficult situations (note our national sport, an obvious example). My prediction is that a merged USA-Canada would look more like Canada than they (or you) might expect, after a generation or two. And this is because Canadians would infiltrate your power structures and without changing their own values would begin to project those values out. It would not be a perfect victory, but ironically, if America thinks it can take over Canada, the only way for Canada to take over America is for America to do just that.
Comprende amigos? I hope so.
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There is no plan to annex Canada
Nobody wants Canada’s problems.
I just want to make it clear in advance that I will only respond to reasoned and intelligent comments on this subject, and will ignore anyone repeating canards, maintaining the attitude towards them already expressed above. I don’t have time for idiots.
A crazy idea; the only two provinces worth considering as states are Alberta and Saskatchewan. The remaining eight would vote 80+ percent Democratic if admitted as states. Canada is a quasi-socialist country and most of the Canadians seem to prefer it that way.
We don’t want Canada. We want Alberta. They are younger, wealthier and harder working. The rest of Canada is old, sick or doesn’t speak English.
Totally untrue.
Yep, the writer is delirious as is anyone else who believes this crap.
And we sure don’t want their electoral votes.
But if we did, could we force Carney to live in Nunavut?
Annexation of Canada would open up a whole new can of worms with not just Ottawa, but London, Moscow, Beijing and every nation in the former British Commonwealth...........
Why would we want a country that is “Lib Heavy”...??
I think if Canadian’s are truly concerned about the US annexing Canada, they are smoking way too many ‘shrooms. Trump HAS made some ridiculous comments about Canada becoming the 51st state—but anyone with any sense should realize that will never happen.
I just don’t see the Indians (dot) who now rule Canada giving up their newfound power.
RE: My opinion is that there is indeed a real desire in corridors of power in Washington DC, a plan to annex Canada or force Canadian provinces one by one to choose the option of seeking statehood as their citizens come to the conclusion that Canada is incapable of meeting their economic basic needs.
There are things I BOTH agree and disagree with.
1. The majority of Americans including their representatives in Congress DO NOT WANT to annex any Canadian province. The sheer logistics, governmental structure, healthcare system, that both countries are familiar with are problematic.
2. I agree that there is a growing desire of Canadian provinces in the East ( Quebec ), and the west ( Alberta ) to secede from Canada. However, I am NOT certain if this trend still constitutes a majority of the residents of these provinces. Quebec almost succeeded years ago, but was thwarted by a few percentage points in a referendum. It could happen again.
3. Even if these provinces succeed in voting to separate, it does not necessarily follow that they would want to be American. They might want to form their own independent country.
We are in the beginning years of a Grand Solar Minimum, like the period in centuries past now referred to as the Little Ice Age.
We don’t want to be annexing Canada; they would want to be be moving south soon. They’ll be trying to anyway...
Has Every One Lost Their Minds ?
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Of Course Trump Wants Canada!
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They got all pouty face about it so we quit allowing people at the war college to draw them up.
We have a plan to invade Vatican City and, possibly, the Magic Kingdom but not Canada.
Now if some of the provinces of Canada want to join us they can take steps to do so but admission is not guaranteed.
Carney’s an idiot and his voters even more idiotic. Canada = Another California. Oh, the dems would LOVE to have Canada.
I’m surprised that Carney doesn’t know that Puerto Rico is known as the unofficial 51st US state.
Not going to happen....move on...stop with the fake news cr**.
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