Posted on 07/03/2025 6:13:53 AM PDT by PIF
If you like all the Science NASA has done since 1961, then wave it all goodby. NASA budget cut to the lowest since 1961 - before there was a manned space program. No more Rovers, probes, [ even 99942 Apophis probes cut, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99942_Apophis ]. There are no private entities that can or will pick up the slack. Cuts to Hubble and to Webb will leave them orbiting junk.
Coupled with the possible collapse of SpaceX from 47's vengeance feud with Musk, the US will no longer have a space program - civilian or military.
These twin disasters in the making will catapult China into the world leader in space. Youth interested in space exploration will flock to China. Others will go to the UK, Europe, India & Japan.
The more you respond with inane comments, the more I know you are a troll.
You keep saying that like it’s a bad thing.
NASA has been a pathetic failure.
Hopefully whatever replaces it will relentlessly focus on results instead of propaganda.
They need to set deadlines and meet them—no excuses.
The Chinese are catching up very rapidly especially with their brand new shinny space station. They actually seem to have a viable plan. They even have sent 2 missions to the “backside” of the moon - a very difficult feat and one that the US has yet to do. They will probably build their station there, far from prying US eyes.
They need to set deadlines and meet them—no excuses.
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Good advice, but its years too late.
If you had a job you’d being doing it instead of being on FR all day.
We had our chance—we blew it.
If you had a job
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But I did - several professions which is why I’m retired now.
https://www.nytimes.com/1986/04/23/us/nasa-wasted-billions-federal-audits-disclose.html
I have a small space start-up and am currently in the process of filing with NASA’s SBIR program... In the interest of full disclosure...
Thanks for the info. Something to ponder.
I think “beautiful” is a misnomer.
“What would you say when APROPHIS slams into the Earth, but no one knew except the Chinese and they kept mum?”
Surprise me.
NASA is not designing things today. They don’t even have the capability to launch anything. Their Falcon and Falcon Heavy is a Space-X design and product. NASA is too busy fiddling around with woke and climate change BS. Diapers on female astronauts chasing each other with BB guns... and don’t even have the sense to wear a hair tie in space.
NASA is no longer the world leader in space. That’s just a fact. Time to cut their budget and lean them out and refocus them on their actual job.
Much like NASA itself.
NASA was and always has been a waste of taxpayers money. Who cares about moon shots, rovers et al?
There will be no space travel in the next 100 years. First they need to solve propulsion needs. As long as we travel as far as possible, and with just enough to get home, mankind is just not ready.
“Layoffs are prioritizing.”
Yes, the last to go are the incompetent managers.
“...the cancellation of all of these projects will make science in the US dependent of whatever the Chinese or the Russians allow us”
The science of NASA is only a small part of the science we explore today. The work for the curing of illnesses like cancer or work in the erasing of hunger is currently going on without the help of NASA unless they can attribute something to it from them. For example, NASA’s expertise in remote sensing technology has been applied to develop technology for detecting and clearing landmines. But that is spinoff technology, not their intent.
“There will be no US military in space; there will be an exodus of young people to China and Russia where the future of space exploration lies now, thanks to the NASA hater running the OMB.”
There is where the ideology goes haywire. That’s like saying people who are pasta chef’s in making noodles will go to China to do their work. We don’t make many products in the US any more and depend upon other countries to make them for us at a cost cut. Such products as Machinery and Electronics, Vehicles: Automobiles are a major import, minerals and Fuels, the U.S. imports crude oil and natural gas and lacks the necessary refinery capacity for domestic crude. Pharmaceuticals and Medical Equipment, specialized steel: although iron ore is available, the U.S. lacks mills for specialized steels. aluminum: Despite having bauxite, the U.S. lacks the cheap electricity needed for aluminum alloy production. So it’s more than just letting something get away. Cost is a major factor that goes with the lack of resources.
BTW, we are already displaying a military presence in Space and have for many years with the hovering of satellites for everything from spying to combat. A good example is GPS used by the army for stryker locations by measuring the time it takes for signals from multiple satellites to reach a receiver. This is part of how they navigate.
“Science in the US will be, for all intents and purposes, dead.”
Not as long as there is a need. But if that need is less urgent than something else, it has to take a back burner. And that is what is happening. If in time, and the US regains its footing, there may be a step toward going back. But there are things more urgent at the moment.
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Trump can gut NASA with my blessing.
FWI:
NASA’s overall budget cut from $24.8 billion - the smallest it had been in decades to $18.8 billion.
NASA Science Mission is cut by 47%, meaning 40 current and planned missions will be cancelled or defunded.
NASA’s Moon to Mars mission will be reduced.
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Meanwhile the SLS and the Orion European capsule are ahead of China to get to the Moon and its resources. But once the SLS does its job, it will be immediately scraped with no replacement in sight. Starship will not be ready for many years. Nor will others like New Glenn.
However, getting to a lunar obit with Orion is not getting to the lunar surface for which there is nothing current or planned. It would likely take some 9 years to design, build, test, and man rate a lunar lander. With the virtual destruction of NASA Science and the huge cuts to the rest of its budget, it seems unlikely that the US will get to the Moon any time soon, and very likely long after the Chinese have set up a working colony and begin to export lunar resources back to earth.
Meanwhile, the Chinese are using the straight forward Apollo approach, using existing tech, but are not ahead of the US. But they are testing a lunar lander which could carry 3 and supplies fora 6-8 hour stay.
The Chinese plan to make their colony at the lunar South Pole and the water found there. Once they lay claim, the only way to gain access is kinetic.
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