Posted on 01/30/2025 2:02:18 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man
Fox News obtained exclusive information regarding the crew members aboard the Army helicopter at the time of the accident. The instructor pilot commanding the Black Hawk boasted 1,000 flying hours.
Meanwhile, his co-pilot was a woman with 500 flying hours, considered to be a standard level of experience in aviation circles.
The revelation that the co-pilot was a woman has reignited ongoing debates about gender roles within military operations.
Fox News reported:
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
FAA staffing, calls for 30 controllers. On duty that night... 19.
Some staffers are pulling double duty.
My take so far...
1 Helo at wrong altitude (fatal mistake) Broke 200’ AGL restriction
2 Helo situational awareness lacking (fatal mistake) Missed visual spotting of a/c off nose
3 Helo crosses into active final approach path (fatal mistake) Breaks into prohibited landing zone
3 ATC communications warning incomplete (fatal mistake) Misperception/assumption and lack of relaying concise a/c location
4 ATC change course instructions lacking (fatal mistake) Fails to order immediate course correction
5 ATC situational awareness lacking (fatal mistake) Fails to recognize a/c on collision course and at same altitude
On a normal Helicopter flight, the Pilot is on the right side and the co-pilot is on the left. If this was a training flight, the pilot trainee would be on the right and the instructor pilot would be on the left. If there was another pilot in the back, they MIGHT have been another trainee pilot or another instructor pilot certifying the left seat instructor pilot to local regulations, to enable them to be an instructor pilot locally, to be an instructor pilot without a senior instructor pilot on board. This would be similar to what we did on some training flights. This would be standard SOP when I was a UH-1H crewchief, sometimes they would fly with or without a crewchief. My 2 cents.
I’d be more interested in knowing who was on the job in air traffic control.
“Night before DC crash, another airliner nearly collided with a helicopter: report”
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/military-helicopter-crash-dc-airport
“Kremlin verifies famed Russian figure skating pair were aboard downed U.S. jet”
Boris and Natasha?!!
What’s with the female pilot texting her husband that they were landing in 20 minutes. He texted her back...sveral times...but they didn’t go though. Tell me she didn’t take her eyes off the field before her...
Exactly!
Yep, I’ve seen it exactly the way you said. And it’s not like a copilot it’s just sitting there looking out the window doing nothing. At night, under goggles, all of those guys are busy. They were done a real disservice by air traffic control
True and then why did they go into restricted airspace? My take was the F/O was being trained and the PIC was explaining stuff to the F/O and not watching where they were going and drifted into the landing pattern.
Kansas Senator Jerry Moran lobbied for this new American Airlines route which has been up and running for a year.
I have done many years of helo ops training with Coast Guard through my experience with Coast Guard Auxiliary. Have worked with many outstanding female pilots. Those “men” on this forum criticizing them in this forum have only piloted their couch while tapping away on their computers keyboard
It apparently is a regular route for them.
The 12th Aviation Battalion, Fort Belvoir, is responsible for VIP transport around D.C. so restricted airspace is their stock-in-trade.
The only VIPs who deserves the transport should be the President and the Vice President.
Okay, I stand corrected. And these threads are how some people learn the real facts, such as here. So no need to stifle discourse.
CC
That is what I understand. I think Trumpwas pretty clear.
“I cannot understand how that helicopter acted almost like a guided missile aimed straight at the plane.”
Well, any time one car t-bones another you could say it’s acting like a “guided missile”. Stuff happens.
Through the regular helicopter corridor? Through the landing pattern for Reagan?
Yes. As long as they stay under 200’ AGL and within the Potomac corridor there is no conflict. I don’t know about the night vision aspect — I’m staying out of that.
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