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Elon Musk Calls for Nigel Farage to be Removed from U.K Reform Party – Here’s the Interview That Angered Musk
The Conservative Treehouse - The Last Refuge ^ | January 5, 2025 | Sundance

Posted on 01/05/2025 1:51:12 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

Consider this Elon’s first test of his political power. If he succeeds, there are strong indications he will eventually call for MAGA to remove President Trump.

Elon Musk did not like the responses during an interview that Nigel Farage gave GB News. Elon Musk is now calling for the U.K Reform Party that Nigel Farage created, to remove Farage from leadership. Musk wants Farage kicked out of the movement Farage created….

… Why?  Because Farage doesn’t support Tommy Robinson with the same ferocity as Elon Musk.

I’ll put the interview below and you can listen to Farage explain his contacts with Elon Musk and his praise for the work Musk did to assist President Trump in the 2024 election.  However, due to domestic issues within Great Britain, Farage feels the Reform Party needs to keep Robinson out of the movement.

Expecting Nigel Farage to embrace Tommy Robinson in the Reform Party would be akin to expecting President Trump to embrace Alex Jones in the new Republican Party.  Elon Musk is currently testing the limits of his political demigod status.

I’m not joking when I say that eventually Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, David Sacks, Larry Ellison, and Peter Thiel will likely demand that their newly controlled MAGA movement, which will – by then- mostly consist of alligator emoji people, remove and ostracize President Trump.

Their long-term play will be to use JD Vance as the wedge to fracture the MAGA base and install Thiel’s groomed politician.  It’s the natural sequence to these events if you play them out looking only at the data visible.  That’s the USA part of the dynamic.

At that moment people will realize just how far this crew is taking things.

Here’s the interview with Nigel Farage that has triggered Elon Musk.  Watch it in full and see how reasonable Farage is in his position and intents for a Reform Party that is surging in the U.K specifically because Farage is expanding the tent.  Farage praises Elon Musk but will not go so far with the Tommy Robinson issue.  WATCH:

Before the interview, Elon Musk was full of praise for Nigel Farage, even considering spending a lot of money to help the U.K reform party to better organize in the U.K. That praise is now seemingly lost forever as a result of this interview.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: amazingelon; concerntroll; concerntrolling; elonmusk; freetommy; magicalelon; mds; nigelfarage; scumdance; sundance; tds; tommyrobinson
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To: RummyChick

This is the reason some have a problem with Farage and what he says.

https://x.com/i/status/1875918036408156416


61 posted on 01/05/2025 3:35:36 PM PST by dforest
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To: MinorityRepublican

https://x.com/i/status/1875918036408156416


62 posted on 01/05/2025 3:37:50 PM PST by dforest
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To: Jamestown1630

I choose not to be a Con and a Grifter. Do a little research on him and his mother that is void of propaganda.


63 posted on 01/05/2025 3:42:22 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Once a “free speech absolutist,” he’s also now pushing what Steve Bannon is calling a Chinese-style social credit score algorithm on Twitter. 


Coded Values

January 4, 2025 | Sundance 

Elon Musk and his Twitter (X platform) engineers have an Artificial Intelligence (AI) user engagement and information system known as Grok. Essentially, you can ask AI Grok questions, and it provides responses based on the coded values of the engineers who built it.

Recently people have noticed a change on the Twitter (X) platform as Elon Musk announced the algorithm was being modified by his team.  So, people started to engage with Grok and ask questions about their user account, the status changes evident from the algorithmic modifications, and the AI learning that is coded by Musk’s engineers.  Essentially, asking the Grok AI: “How do you perceive me (through my content)?”

The responses from the xAI Grok system are starting to alarm everyone.

.…”These posts might be subject to reduced reach because they could be perceived as promoting skepticism, conspiracy, or negativity towards individuals, institutions, or the media. However, without direct insight into X’s algorithms or specific feedback from X, these are speculative based on general platform behavior towards negative content. Remember, platforms often aim to reduce the visibility of posts that could lead to misinformation, harassment, or a negative user experience.”….

When asked how to avoid the Twitter platform diminishing their user voice, a typical response from Grok:

“Don’t criticize your government, don’t criticize foreign governments, don’t talk about conspiracy theories, stop telling people to fuck off in the comments, and don’t accuse government officials or members of the media of malfeasance or dishonesty.”

These are the parameters built by Elon Musk and his Twitter engineers.

This is what controls the ‘reach of speech’ on the platform.  Now, it would be simply funny but there are serious layers that must be discussed here.

First, this is how Elon Musk, the demigod free speech advocate, is structuring the algorithm within his Twitter (X) platform. These are his coded values as displayed by the engineers he has hired.  Musks engineers transcribe his goals into code and implant it within the algorithm that controls the site content and restricts or enlarges the influence of the users.

Read this again. 

…”Don’t criticize your government, don’t criticize foreign governments, don’t talk about conspiracy theories, … and don’t accuse government officials or members of the media of malfeasance or dishonesty.”  

What does that sound like?

Many people will disregard this and simply shake it away saying, ‘it’s just some stupid social media platform, who cares.’  Let me tell you why it matters.

These same coded values are being created by the same tech engineers who are currently building out the surveillance state technological interface with government.  This same perspective, what Palantir CEO Alex Karp described as “coded values,” is being written into the code within Palantir facial recognition and targeting software.   The U.S. Government has already signed billions in contracts with Palantir (Peter Thiel) for these AI products.

Take your “REAL ID” as required by the United States Government (Passport or Driver’s License compatible), now overlay your identity as facially recognized by the tech system around your identity and connect it all to the metadata of your digital life that you leave as a fingerprint within every interaction with technology, and finally add in the coded values that will determine your “liberty status” or what might be called your social credit score (China version).   

Now do you see the problem?

Larry Ellison: […] But this is only the start of our surveillance dystopia, according to Larry Ellison, the billionaire cofounder of Oracle. He said AI will usher in a new era of surveillance that he gleefully said will ensure “citizens will be on their best behavior.”

Ellison made the comments as he spoke to investors earlier this week during an Oracle financial analysts meeting, where he shared his thoughts on the future of AI-powered surveillance tools.

Ellison said AI would be used in the future to constantly watch and analyze vast surveillance systems, like security cameras, police body cameras, doorbell cameras, and vehicle dashboard cameras.

“We’re going to have supervision,” Ellison said. “Every police officer is going to be supervised at all times, and if there’s a problem, AI will report that problem and report it to the appropriate person. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that’s going on.” (more)

What we are witnessing evolve on Twitter, are the original imprints of how the Silicon Valley artificial intelligence products will engage in your life. This is the core “coded values” part of the AI assembly.   Larry Ellison, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, David Sacks, Vivek Ramaswamy, JD Vance are all part of the technological network building this system for influence and affluence.

These same actors are about to take their AI enhancements into the largest database ever created and stored in human history, through DOGE.  The databases of the U.S Government and NSA hold an astronomical scale of American data.  Imagine the computer learning possible by allowing AI to analyze that level of data scale.

The debate about “coded values” on Twitter is only the tip of the iceberg.


64 posted on 01/05/2025 3:42:54 PM PST by Bratch
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To: 9YearLurker

Exactly.


65 posted on 01/05/2025 3:43:05 PM PST by mazz44 (http://knowledgeofhealth.com/why-animals-age-they-produce-less-vitamin-c-same-for-humans/)
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To: Antoninus; All

I don’t think Farage is naive. I could be wrong, but I am sure Farge has vetted the guy. Farage knows he needs some percentage of the wine & brie Midlands crowd to be successful. That move gives him “not racist” cover. Robinson is viewed by them as a lower-class soccer hooligan. (Which he once was! Read his book I have.) Politics isn’t static its dynamic, particularly in a parliamentary system where you have 9+ parties and factions.


66 posted on 01/05/2025 3:46:15 PM PST by Reily (a)
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To: Jamestown1630

That’s an excellent point.


67 posted on 01/05/2025 3:49:11 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possiWe neve hear of gambling paying off $billioble.)
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To: FenwickBabbitt

Here’s a clip from GB News; Ann Widdecombe says Musk is interfering in things he knows nothing about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psufJF-DIxg


68 posted on 01/05/2025 3:51:30 PM PST by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Antoninus

Britain is so full on Muzzoids that in order to win you have to embrace them. Nobody is talking about deporting them either. Unfortunately, once the muzzoids get a foothold, they take over everything. That is the reason they got away with the grooming of young kids.

We are getting into the same position here with immigration as it is.


69 posted on 01/05/2025 3:53:19 PM PST by dforest
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To: heavy metal

Yep. Six times.


70 posted on 01/05/2025 3:59:27 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

well then you get what you voted for...

just like you hypocrites preach about people that voted for demonrats...


71 posted on 01/05/2025 4:07:24 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: heavy metal

You really sound like you’re out to lunch.


72 posted on 01/05/2025 4:08:41 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: grey_whiskers
Yes; are you aware that Farage lost bigly by splitting the vote such that and therefore is useless in protecting them. His party split the vote so that Labour won a landslide victory of seats in Parliament with only 33.7 % of the vote but received 63% of the seats because Farage essentially targeted the Tories rather than Labour. Reform UK was 5 measly seats. That is less than 1%. Imagine Ross Perot targeting the Republicans so that the Democrats won 275 seats in the House and the Republicans got 3 seats. That is how badly Farage miscalculated.
73 posted on 01/05/2025 4:10:22 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: rlmorel

Sundance entered the realm of Crazy a long time ago. This guy has the answers to everything yet refuses to identify himself or actually do anything besides write daily blogs saying how Trump is betraying us, everyone is betraying Trump etc. The guy is a complete nut job.


74 posted on 01/05/2025 4:17:01 PM PST by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th and 47th President of the United States of America!)
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To: 9YearLurker

you look like a hypocrite...


75 posted on 01/05/2025 4:22:12 PM PST by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: grey_whiskers
I was sending his own language back to him.

Resist that temptation.

    Matthew 13:
  1. O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
  2. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
  3. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
  4. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.


    James 3:
  1. My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.
  2. For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
  3. Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body.
  4. Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth.
  5. Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
  6. And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.
  7. For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
  8. But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
  9. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.
  10. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
  11. Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
  12. Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
  13. Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
  14. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.
  15. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.
  16. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.
  17. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
  18. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

76 posted on 01/05/2025 4:23:07 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Edit: should read
"and the Republicans got 3 81 seats while Perot got 3 seats."
77 posted on 01/05/2025 4:28:29 PM PST by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

2/3 of Brits voted againt Labour.

Labour won a majority.

Labour sold out Britain’s underaged girls as sexual slaves for *decades* to stay in power.


78 posted on 01/05/2025 4:33:02 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican

He was when he was born. With the UK sovereign being the nominal head of state of South Africa he could be considered a subject.

CC


79 posted on 01/05/2025 4:36:56 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

I see I was incorrect on that. Please disregard.

CC


80 posted on 01/05/2025 4:40:09 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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